General Zod vs Kurse

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tkitna Senior Member
Originally posted by h1a8

You just can't feel Kurse is stronger than Superman without proof.

Do any of us have real proof? Was there an issue in which Kurse and Superman arm wrestled or lifted weights to see who was stronger? If not, your statement is bogus. You say I cant feel Kurse is stronger, but yet that is exactly how your basing your argument.

Otherwise, you are bias and are in no position to debate. Just because Kurse is 4x stronger than Thor doesn't mean he is stronger than Supes (unless you think that Superman is not more than 4x stronger than Thor).

Thor had the belt of strength on and Kurse was smacking him around like a child. I dont feel Superman is much stronger if at all then Thor with the belt of strength. So, yes, I feel Kurse is more then a match for Zod in this instance.

Lastly, you are not taking in consideration other, more important, things.
Things like HV, speed, bfr options, super reflexes, etc. should be considered as they are more important than strength.

Sure I am. I'm just not confident that they would be effective enough to tip the scales. Speed is the biggest thing here, and Zod would be smart to use it for the sole purpose of running away.

Hyperion Prime Senior Member

Kurse would kill ZOD. Why is everyone on Zods nutz.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by tkitna
Do any of us have real proof? Was there an issue in which Kurse and Superman arm wrestled or lifted weights to see who was stronger? If not, your statement is bogus. You say I cant feel Kurse is stronger, but yet that is exactly how your basing your argument.
Feats are the proof. Just look at the feats and it will be clear.


Thor had the belt of strength on and Kurse was smacking him around like a child. I dont feel Superman is much stronger if at all then Thor with the belt of strength. So, yes, I feel Kurse is more then a match for Zod in this instance.

Beyonder made Kurse 4x stronger than Thor. Thor with belt is 2x stronger. 4x > 2x.
Also Spidey can knock someone around like a child. Knocking someone around isn't a true gauge of strength, damage is.


Sure I am. I'm just not confident that they would be effective enough to tip the scales. Speed is the biggest thing here, and Zod would be smart to use it for the sole purpose of running away.
HV can seriously damage Kurse, Freeze breath can increase the speed gap even more, and Zod can always bfr Kurse since Kurse can't fly. If Zod wanted to then he could probably just see Kurse as a statue and do what he wants anytime he wants. He could probably sodomize Kurse before Kurse can do anything about it.
I know that is not going to happen according to the rules we use, but only IF really Zod wanted. Stupid Zod (or is he?)

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Kurse would kill ZOD. Why is everyone on Zods nutz.

Why would Kurse kill Zod, because he's stronger?

the Darkone Senior Member
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Kurse would kill ZOD. Why is everyone on Zods nutz.

No clue, Zod would get beat the hell down.

Kurse 10/10

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, Maurice Greene fast?
To make an accurate call, I would have to see and hear Maurice do the "thwip, thwip" with the hands. Then I can give an opinion. But, I would imagine it is possible.

DTM Senior Member

Considering how much more powerful Kurse was to Thor (especially 4X Thor Kurse), and that most consider Superman and Thor to be in the same ball park power-wise, I cant see for the life of me how Zod has anything more than a minute chance, if any, to beat Kurse.

tkitna Senior Member
Originally posted by h1a8
Beyonder made Kurse 4x stronger than Thor. Thor with belt is 2x stronger. 4x > 2x.
Also Spidey can knock someone around like a child. Knocking someone around isn't a true gauge of strength, damage is.

So you think Thor was in good shape after he was knocked around? 🤨

Why would Kurse kill Zod, because he's stronger?

A lot stronger so yes.

curryman Senior Member

lmfao at people claiming Thor wasn't injured by Kurse.

ThereIsHope Senior Member

No battle field removal............probably curse would win due to his invunrability. What could Zod do to him? He may just beat up on him till he finds out his weakness to iron though.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by tkitna
So you think Thor was in good shape after he was knocked around? 🤨

A lot stronger so yes.

Someone of equal or slightly lesser strength has knocked around and serious hurt the other.

You base Kurse being a lot stronger off Thor. But Superman is a lot stronger than Thor. Do you believe Kurse was more than 4x stronger than Thor?

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
No battle field removal............probably curse would win due to his invunrability. What could Zod do to him? He may just beat up on him till he finds out his weakness to iron though.
Thor was 2x weaker as the reason why he couldn't hurt him that much. But when Thor used the belt to match his strength then Thor was able to hurt him significantly. So beyonder increased Kurse's strength to 4x Thor. Now we are back to square 1. So anyone who is 4x as strong as Thor will hurt Kurse significantly. Zod's is such a guy

DTM Senior Member

Im baffled why you think Zod (or Superman for that matter) is 4x as strong/tough/powerful as Thor. I mean, IMO I do think Superman is a bit stronger and tougher than Thor physically, but its no where near 4x as much.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by DTM
Im baffled why you think Zod (or Superman for that matter) is 4x as strong/tough/powerful as Thor. I mean, IMO I do think Superman is a bit stronger and tougher than Thor physically, but its no where near 4x as much.
If you look at their feats then you would see that there is a vast difference. Thor hitting with an awesome hammer can create the illusion of natural strength.

DTM Senior Member

So you think Superman would slaughter Thor then, possibly even easier than Kurse would, if you believe Superman = Kurse in physical power, plus all of Supermans others powers.

the Darkone Senior Member

Zod can't harm Kurse period, as where Kurse can beat the crap out Zod. Kurse is too strong and too damn durable, one of the best bricks in comics plus he can track you down where ever you go. Kurse>>>>Thor w/belt of strength>>Thor=Beta Ray Bill=Superman in strength and durability.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by DTM
So you think Superman would slaughter Thor then, possibly even easier than Kurse would, if you believe Superman = Kurse in physical power, plus all of Supermans others powers.
Fighting smart and at his best, I think Superman would spite stomp Thor. But ABC logic there is faulty since Thor wasn't fighting at his best against Kurse. He could have beaten Kurse 6 ways to Sunday if he would have pulled out the good shit.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by the Darkone
Zod can't harm Kurse period, as where Kurse can beat the crap out Zod. Kurse is too strong and too damn durable, one of the best bricks in comics plus he can track you down where ever you go. Kurse>>>>Thor w/belt of strength>>Thor=Beta Ray Bill=Superman in strength and durability.
Thor with belt could harm 2x Kurse. So it was understood that matching Kurse strength allowed one to harm him. So to harm Kurse requires 4x Thor strength or more right? Well Zod has that

DTM Senior Member

So you dont give Kurse too much credit, because the Thor he slaughtered wasnt fighting to his fullest? While I do respect your opinion, your level for Superman/Zod compared to Thor is WAY different from mine.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by DTM
So you dont give Kurse too much credit, because the Thor he slaughtered wasnt fighting to his fullest? While I do respect your opinion, your level for Superman/Zod compared to Thor is WAY different from mine.
Thor becomes a peer to Superman because of Mjolnir. Hell without Mjolnir Thor wouldn't be herald status (not even low herald)

DTM Senior Member

Yep, we definately have a difference of opinion when it comes to Thor and Superman, methinks. 🙂