Battlezone challenge to Zelda fans

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see people die and are shown the bodies afterwards. We see someone far less skilled shoot the avada kedavra along with other wizards doing so in the films. We don't need to see it to draw a conclusion based off of common sense with all the information we do know.

We are to assume the deatheaters who work for Voldemort are skilled enough to do so. I would never argue someone on Harry's side would do so but the other side of course. We see Goyle do so. The kid had the skill to let loose fiendfyre but lack the skill to control it.

What I claim makes sense given the information we do know. I won't even be arguing for these massive avada kedavra tactics anyways.

Yet its still an assumption. Theres nothing to say if a certain wizard uses a certain spell, or if its even in their nature. Can't even know if they've as death-happy as Goyle.

"I would never argue someone on Harry's side would do so"
And why not? They've killed, with intention, and they know about.

So if I made a thread with a random dark arts wizard, you would say that he would use AK, just like that?

As I said, its likely other dark wizards can use AK but assuming anyone can is something we'd need a bit of proof on.

Soo... a yes to what I said?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Yet its still an assumption. Theres nothing to say if a certain wizard uses a certain spell, or if its even in their nature. Can't even know if they've as death-happy as Goyle.

"I would never argue someone on Harry's side would do so"
And why not? They've killed, with intention, and they know about.

So if I made a thread with a random dark arts wizard, you would say that he would use AK, just like that?

As I said, its likely other dark wizards can use AK but assuming anyone can is something we'd need a bit of proof on.

Soo... a yes to what I said?

Option 1😮nly the wizards shown on film can perform the avada kedavra.

Option 2: Other deatheaters most assuredly can use the spell and did in the battle but we just don't see it on screen.

It's what the evil folk implore. We see the good guys protecting their own and doing what they can in defense but they simply go about this in another way.

Depends on the skill level because someone as unskilled as Goyle can do so anyone his level and up can do so.

I have no idea what you are talking about here. Explain it again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. It's coming to the conclusion that 2+2=4. You can act like you don't know what 2+2= but we both know the answer. If I asked the director what do you think his answer would be ?

Option 1😮nly the wizards shown on film can perform the avada kedavra.

Option 2: Other deatheaters most assuredly can use the spell and did in the battle but we just don't see it on screen.

It's what the evil folk implore. We see the good guys protecting their own and doing what they can in defense but they simply go about this in another way.

Depends on the skill level because someone as unskilled as Goyle can do so anyone his level and up can do so.

I have no idea what you are talking about here. Explain it again.

Being in the dark arts doesnt make give them a high killing intent. Takes more than just wanting to kill, seeing as a pissed off Harry was unable to properly use the pain curse because it wasn't in his nature.. on the person that killed his godfather.

The point is if you want to state that every single dark arts wizard can use AK, gonna need a bit more than 'yeah, why not?'

"So you don't mind if I take that as your concession until you speak up on the matter?" The two LoZ matters.

Quan ignored my post.

Sword to the neck, super strength, does the head come off?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Quan ignored my post.

Sword to the neck, super strength, does the head come off?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Being in the dark arts doesnt make give them a high killing intent. Takes more than just wanting to kill, seeing as a pissed off Harry was unable to properly use the pain curse because it wasn't in his nature.. on the person that killed his godfather.

The point is if you want to state that every single dark arts wizard can use AK, gonna need a bit more than 'yeah, why not?'

"So you don't mind if I take that as your concession until you speak up on the matter?" The two LoZ matters.

I never said every single one so quit assuming that. Anyone Doyle's skill level or above can do so.

No, you are just obsessed. I told you I'd answer this afterwards. You had a chance to battlezone me but wisely chose not to. I think you know you would have lost.

Is this in regards to the killing curse? As I understand it it was created by dark wizards somewhere around the middle ages to instantly kill their enemies.. It comes across as something of a staple for any real dark wizard to know and use at a certain lvl. I don't think everybody is capable of using it but a good portion should have it in their arsenal. The only problem is from what I know alot aren't shown using such spells or referenced to being able to use it so it becomes questionable. And even if they are referenced that some are capable of using such spells, it's never pointed out how many. It's a really big gray area and something easy to simply shoot down as a possibility.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I answered this already. It depends on the strike and the power behind it.

Thanks.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Is this in regards to the killing curse? As I understand it it was created by dark wizards somewhere around the middle ages to instantly kill their enemies.. It comes across as something of a staple for any real dark wizard to know and use at a certain lvl. I don't think everybody is capable of using it but a good portion should have it in their arsenal. The only problem is from what I know alot aren't shown using such spells or referenced to being able to use it so it becomes questionable. And even if they are referenced that some are capable of using such spells, it's never pointed out how many. It's a really big gray area and something easy to simply shoot down as a possibility.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You avoided my question which makes me believe you don't even believe yourself here. Harry doesn't have it in him. That's why. Most of the deatheaters do. The good guys were defending themselves whereas the bad guys were invading to come after Harry. Huge difference.

I never said every single one so quit assuming that. Anyone Doyle's skill level or above can do so.

No, you are just obsessed. I told you I'd answer this afterwards. You had a chance to battlezone me but wisely chose not to. I think you know you would have lost.

You mean that pointless hypothetical question in which we ask a director a question about some characters using spells or not? Ignored because that would be either of us guessing what the director would say.. more guessing. And willingness to kill is willingness to kill, whatever the reason, its the same will.

So can you show me their mentality, willingness and capability to use spells like AK? If yes, show me and we'll accept those people can do so. If no, we'll agree that they probably can but be unable to argue that they do. Burden of proof and all.

"I never said every single one so quit assuming that."
"someone as unskilled as Goyle can do so anyone his level and up can do so."
^You just said that anyone more skilled than an 'unskilled' wizard can do so.

Quan, how would me being in this BZ change anything if what Im asking you for is not in this BZ? I want the answer to the Twilight and Triforce points, two things that will not be discussed in the BZ, thus none of your 'secrets' will be revealed if you just answer the question.

I mean there must have been a reason you restricted mega weapons from this BZ, especially since the only mega weapons come from the LoZ side.

Look, you can just say theres no counter for them.. stop us wasting our time dancing around this.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So in short, yes, if Link swings his sword and it hits a limb, that limb is coming off. You could try one word answers, rather than jumping around and typing up a novel anytime you don't want to answer a question.

Thanks.

The real problem here is that the killing curse(s) is(are) kind of moot here, since it's(they're) useless against the heaviest hitters on the Zelda side. shrug

You are also dead wrong with that as well. Don't worry your lack of balls makes you harmless though.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You mean that pointless hypothetical question in which we ask a director a question about some characters using spells or not? Ignored because that would be either of us guessing what the director would say.. more guessing. And willingness to kill is willingness to kill, whatever the reason, its the same will.

So can you show me their mentality, willingness and capability to use spells like AK? If yes, show me and we'll accept those people can do so. If no, we'll agree that they probably can but be unable to argue that they do. Burden of proof and all.[/B]

"I never said every single one so quit assuming that."
"someone as unskilled as Goyle can do so anyone his level and up can do so."
^You just said that anyone more skilled than an 'unskilled' wizard can do so.[/B]

Quan, how would me being in this BZ change anything if what Im asking you for is not in this BZ? I want the answer to the Twilight and Triforce points, two things that will not be discussed in the BZ, thus none of your 'secrets' will be revealed if you just answer the question.

I mean there must have been a reason you restricted mega weapons from this BZ, especially since the only mega weapons come from the LoZ side.

Look, you can just say theres no counter for them.. stop us wasting our time dancing around this. [/B]

There are no mega weapons really from the LOZ side. It's a myth. I just didn't want to have to spend the battlezone convincing the cave men from the video game versus thread otherwise.

There is indeed a counter but you will have to wait and see. Have your pom poms ready.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already answered this.

You are also dead wrong with that as well. Don't worry your lack of balls makes you harmless though.

So you admit that Link is indeed capable of dismembering his foes. Good, I only had to hold your hand and guide you along with the process.

You never have posted any proof that the largely featless curse could overcome a piece of the triforce.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you won't answer it because you need to see everything spoonfed to you or else you simply won't believe it. Same goes for Link and his super killing strength. Since he doesn't have one example of doing so he needs his sword in order to do so. It's entirely different as some spells might wound a in order to avoid killing whereas the killing curse spares no one. I can get into a fight and try to win without killing the other guy. You do know this is a possibility; correct ?
You just said willingness to kill is a willingness to kill and then ignore it a little ways down your post. If Goyle can do so why can't a deatheater who has killed do so with the killing curse ? Especially if he has greater skill. The funny thing is I never once said I'd be arguing for this but your obsession with me after you backed down from this challenge as well has convinced you you are safe now. Sit back on the sidelines with the other girls.

I said anyone on the Deatheaters side with greater skill can do so. Most of them have far more experience and a highly unseasoned wizard still effectively cast the spell. We can see he isn't very skilled by him losing control of the fire animals.

So by your word /every single/ deatheater or dark wizard can freely cast AK? What about every wizard that has the potential to kill?

Thing is if you weren't bothered about this you wouldn't have started the discussion, continued it and could have just said 'we dont know' and that would have been the end of it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My answer will be reveled in some time. This will indeed tip off my foe and I will have none of it.

There are no mega weapons really from the LOZ side. It's a myth. I just didn't want to have to spend the battlezone convincing the cave men from the video game versus thread otherwise.

There is indeed a counter but you will have to wait and see. Have your pom poms ready.

And how on Earth can it tip Xan off if a counter for this wont be brought up in the BZ? C'mon you superficially banned them (and only from the LoZ side) for a reason. If there was a counter there would be no point in banning them, unless they're that much of a threat to HP.

..did you just insult all the people that go to the VG-Vs thread by calling us cavemen, then call me a girl? Quan lets keep things away from child-like banter, okay?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

So you admit that Link is indeed capable of dismembering his foes. Good, I only had to hold your hand and guide you along with the process.

You never have posted any proof that the largely featless curse could overcome a piece of the triforce.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said it's possible but not likely. There is a big diff.

Don't care how likely you think it is. Your bias is lulzy.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Do you know what the director would say? Do I? No, neither of us do, and pretending we have an answer for it is pointless. And thats a bad comparison; Saying a character can use a certain spell as has the right head for it is not the same as saying 'that guys strong, it will hurt if he hit you'.
Not the spells, actually attacking with the intend to kill, which the good guys have done. And I never said you'd be arguing for AK, did I now? Actually looking back you were the one that started specifically talking about the AK curse, when all I was doing was asking why you stripped one side more than the other.

I limited the Harry Potter characters far more than the Zelda characters. It's not even close.

So by your word /every single/ deatheater or dark wizard can freely cast AK? What about every wizard that has the potential to kill?

Thing is if you weren't bothered about this you wouldn't have started the discussion, continued it and could have just said 'we dont know' and that would have been the end of it.[/B]

You calling Twilight and the Triforce are a myth?

And how on Earth can it tip Xan off if a counter for this wont be brought up in the BZ? C'mon you superficially banned them (and only from the LoZ side) for a reason. If there was a counter there would be no point in banning them, unless they're that much of a threat to HP.[/B]

You will find out after it starts. I told you to drop it but you are annoying and persistent as ever. I am not going to be nice since you keep asking the same question i told you I wouldn't directly answer at this point.

I already explained that if I left them in that the zelda debater would basically be arguing for that and that's what the debate would have disintegrated to. Keep asking the same questions though. I will just increase my post count.

..did you just insult all the people that go to the VG-Vs thread by calling us cavemen, then call me a girl? Quan lets keep things away from child-like banter, okay? [/B]

You will find out after it starts. I told you to drop it but you are annoying and persistent as ever. I am not going to be nice since you keep asking the same question i told you I wouldn't directly answer at this point.

LolQuan.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
"I don't have an answer and I'm getting butthurt that you keep bringing this up. D:"

LolQuan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Problem, Quan?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Calling you on your bullshit is conceding now? Lol. You literally have no argument, you know that Ganondorf could literally one shot the Potterverse so you banned it. You know the Triforce could do the same, so you banned it.

Problem, Quan?