^Lol. Thor and Wally West are my two favorite characters. Unlike most people however, I've read pretty much all there is to read of Wally so I don't think he's going to go around beating Top Tier Strongmen with any sort of ease.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Look again brohttp://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp4.jpg
He was shown as directly reacting to the punch. Maybe the art and dialogue were not in sync here. But it was no cheapshot.
You have any proofs for that shit or you're just talking out of your ass? A superman class being while in super-speed couldn't see it coming and got KTFO. Now if wally uses IMP on thor, he wouldn't see it coming and would get KTFO unless you think Thor is faster and more durable than superman and then I'd have to laugh at you.
I know what would happen, don't be a shuruku. If wally uses an IMP on thor, it would go exactly like it happened to Zum. Thor would be frozen and then he would be KTFO. Its an autowin by its nature.
Four martians have to cheapshot superman to knock him out. Well , wonder woman don't count as usual. They blitzed them in fortress as a group.
Maybe, but as far as I know, dialogue takes precedence over art and in this case, it was very clearly stated that to Zum, Wally was nothing more but a continuous beam of light. He might have been looking back but he couldn't see anything coming.
He might be, he might not. My point, once again, is that Wally cheap shotted Zum and using a showing with such an asterisk as conclusive evidence for every time he Infinite Mass Punches an opponent is illogical. Do you remember Captain Marvel cheap shotting Superman for a knock out? That's like me arguing that he can two shot Superman every-time he uses a bit of magic juice.
I don't see what another poster from a different site has to do with this. And childish jabs like that don't help your rep any.
Why doesn't Wonder Woman count? I specifically remember one Martian taking one Leaguer out, and restraining them. Do you have scans?
Whatever, agree to disagree. I don't really care that much.
Originally posted by Mihsnme
You've read all there is to read on Wally and yet still don't know how one of Wally's trademark abilities work.Makes perfect sense 😂
😬 The Infinite Mass Punch is hardly one of Wally's trademark abilities.
I know exactly how it works. The text was clear and the reasoning behind it was pretty simple.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I don't think the IMP was a cheap shot.Zum was trained in super speed combat. He was having the upperhand throughout their super speed fight. Wally digged in his bag of Flash Facts and pulled the IMP.
End of story.
Why not?
I know what happened but this brief explanation doesn't explain how you reached the above conclusion.
If Zum couldn't see the punch coming, wouldn't it by definition be a cheap shot?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt really is though, and I've been reading through the past few pages seeing what you've posted and at this point it seems you really don't want Thor to lose, even though he does horrendously.
😬 The Infinite Mass Punch is hardly one of Wally's trademark abilities.I know exactly how it works. The text was clear and the reasoning behind it was pretty simple.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusLike Mongul?
^Lol. Thor and Wally West are my two favorite characters. Unlike most people however, I've read pretty much all there is to read of Wally so I don't think he's going to go around beating Top Tier Strongmen with any sort of ease.
Maybe, but as far as I know, dialogue takes precedence over art and in this case, it was very clearly stated that to Zum, Wally was nothing more but a continuous beam of light. He might have been looking back but he couldn't see anything coming.That can be but its not as clear cut as you're making out to be. Not that it would matter.
He might be, he might not.Any proof to the contrary? Otherwise you're just talking out of air.
My point, once again, is that Wally cheap shotted Zum and using a showing with such an asterisk as conclusive evidence for every time he Infinite Mass Punches an opponent is illogical.For all intents and purposes he would be cheapshotting thor here, since thor wouldn't be able to perceive him either if wally uses an IMP. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
Do you remember Captain Marvel cheap shotting Superman for a knock out? That's like me arguing that he can two shot Superman every-time he uses a bit of magic juice.Total strawman. Cap isn't blindsiding superman in the middle of fight.
I don't see what another poster from a different site has to do with this.You are acting just like him.
And childish jabs like that don't help your rep any.I care about my rep from you? Who said that?
Why doesn't Wonder Woman count?She's a woman.
I specifically remember one Martian taking one Leaguer out, and restraining them. Do you have scans?I would post them as soon as I can
Whatever, agree to disagree. I don't really care that much.Hahaha, do you say everytime?
Originally posted by Mihsnme
It really is though, and I've been reading through the past few pages seeing what you've posted and at this point it seems you really don't want Thor to lose, even though he does horrendously.
The Infinite Mass Punch is only a trademark ability in the eyes of those who haven't bothered to read any Flash and only visit forums and/or respect threads.
He's used the attack what, once, twice if you count his attack against Zoom as it's a high speed punch. There's also contradictory evidence such as the time he hit Grodd and the metallic telekinetic.
Why would he lose horrendously? A aoe lightning blast could very well let him beat Flash like 90% of the time.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like Mongul?That can be but its not as clear cut as you're making out to be. Not that it would matter.
Any proof to the contrary? Otherwise you're just talking out of air. For all intents and purposes he would be cheapshotting thor here, since thor wouldn't be able to perceive him either if wally uses an IMP. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Total strawman. Cap isn't blindsiding superman in the middle of fight.
You are acting just like him. I care about my rep from you? Who said that?
She's a woman. I would post them as soon as I can
Hahaha, do you say everytime?
He owned Mongul after his speedforce upgrade, yes. Now would you like me to list contradictory evidence? At the very least, he has so much trouble that these forum myths are clearly inaccurate.
Why not? Is there some hidden meaning I'm missing?
So you think Captain Marvel can two piece Superman easily every time he blindsides him? Because that's pretty much what you're saying here with Wally's punch. And I've seen enough of sucker punches to know that they fluctuate wildly.
Whatever arguments you have with Shruku, keep it with him. "Do you say everytime"? I don't know what you mean here.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI own a good chunk of Flash's second volume and I consider it a trade mark ability. But even if you don't, I question how much Flash you've read since your apparently arguing on where Zum got sucker punched or not when he was clearly looking at Wally before getting KTFO
The Infinite Mass Punch is only a trademark ability in the eyes of those who haven't bothered to read any Flash and only visit forums and/or respect threads.He's used the attack what, once, twice if you count his attack against Zoom as it's a high speed punch. There's also contradictory evidence such as the time he hit Grodd and the metallic telekinetic.
Why would he lose horrendously? A aoe lightning blast could very well let him beat Flash like 90% of the time.
The same reason why he couldn't use his AOE Lightning on Mongoose, Spiderman, Wolverine or Quicksilver, he';s too slow. There are street levelers with better combat speed than Thor.
Originally posted by MihsnmeYou do realize Thor basically schooled Quicksilver and not too long ago.
I own a good chunk of Flash's second volume and I consider it a trade mark ability. But even if you don't, I question how much Flash you've read since your apparently arguing on where Zum got sucker punched or not when he was clearly looking at Wally before getting KTFOThe same reason why he couldn't use his AOE Lightning on Mongoose, Spiderman, Wolverine or Quicksilver, he';s too slow. There are street levelers with better combat speed than Thor.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He owned Mongul after his speedforce upgrade, yes. Now would you like me to list contradictory evidence? At the very least, he has so much trouble that these forum myths are clearly inaccurate.Why not? Is there some hidden meaning I'm missing?
So you think Captain Marvel can two piece Superman easily every time he blindsides him? Because that's pretty much what you're saying here with Wally's punch. And I've seen enough of sucker punches to know that they fluctuate wildly.
Whatever arguments you have with Shruku, keep it with him. "Do you say everytime"? I don't know what you mean here.
You said its a cheapshot by all accounts, its presented as a cheapshot by dialogue but not by art.
As easily as a mind-controlled superman twoshotting cap? No, because we've seen cap suckerpunch superman both before and after and it didn't took him out. You've seen an IMP fail? Where?
Don't talk like him then.
I meant,"Do you say it everytime?"
Originally posted by Mihsnme
I own a good chunk of Flash's second volume and I consider it a trade mark ability. But even if you don't, I question how much Flash you've read since your apparently arguing on where Zum got sucker punched or not when he was clearly looking at Wally before getting KTFOThe same reason why he couldn't use his AOE Lightning on Mongoose, Spiderman, Wolverine or Quicksilver, he';s too slow. There are street levelers with better combat speed than Thor.
Stop lying. How can the Infinite Mass Punch be his trademark ability if he's used it only once, maybe twice? Maybe if it was a rare move he tapped into in the most dire of situations like Thor's God Blast, you'd have a point but as it stands? Speed stealing has far more evidence to support it being a trademark ability, and frankly, I'd think it'd be more effective in this fight.
I don't just look at the pretty pictures, I also read the text. I recommend that you do so as well, the art is good, but Morrison is an even better writer.
😂
He actually uses aoe attacks to beat Spider-Man, Moongoose and Quicksilver.
Originally posted by NewjakYes, I have a good chunk of Mighty Avengers [close to that entire series] he schooled Quicksilver with an AOE attack after he realized he couldn't hit him with lightning and slammed the ground. In that case Quicksilver didn't even try to go on the offense. If he did he could of most likely blitzed the shit out of Thor.
You do realize Thor basically schooled Quicksilver and not too long ago.
Now don't get me wrong, there's an incredibly slim possibility of Thor beating a morals on Wally if Wally dicks around and lets Thor nail a large AOE attack, but that's really the closest Thor is ever going to get to anything remotely resembling a victory over a Speed Force user
