X-Men: Days of Future Past

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I backed my claim. You begged for my opinion because you worship me. Its kind of obvious. Just back your silly little claims every once in a while since I always do.

Prove with quotes where I 'beg' you to do a review. Even where I ask you to do a review. As opposed to simply stating sarcastically about your great 2 word review which epitomised your contributions to these forums. Short, vapid and completely without substance.

Originally posted by jaden101
Prove with quotes where I 'beg' you to do a review. Even where I ask you to do a review. As opposed to simply stating sarcastically about your great 2 word review which epitomised your contributions to these forums. Short, vapid and completely without substance.
You begged for an in depth analysis showing you're obsession with me. Its unhealthy. I gave you a tidbit and you began worshipping me again. You sicken me and others around you.

Prove it with quotes then.

Originally posted by jaden101
Prove it with quotes then.
He hasn't seen the movies.

Originally posted by jaden101
Prove it with quotes then.
Anyone can follow it along and see the obvious implications.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
He hasn't seen the movies.
Take your butthurt elsewhere.

Lol easy guys easy

Who feels Logan was in this film to much?

Originally posted by dadudemon

This scenario that you describe is applicable if and only if the information she passes into the past causes a drastic change. If it does not cause a drastic change, the timeline remains unaltered. This allows for her to practice this power. She can send as much information as she wants into the past as long as it is benign information. This is just one explanation of our information passing works in time-travel stuff.

I mentioned 2 other ways, as well. The other way was me explaining how she could pass information into the past but it always alters the future (like it would be in the real world). That was the Xavier-Kitty stuff I was describing.

The third way I mentioned was the reality way in that it would possibly work because we exist in a multiverse.

That's only if you use that specific scenario for how it works. There were 2 other ways I explained how this stuff could work. One of them would make you the most satisifed: that the timeline does not change at all unless it is significant (that is what I meant by benign information...if the information she passes is benign, she can still know it and not cease to exist).

When it comes to time travel, the extreme majority of viewers are going to be ignorant of temporal physics. In fact, the physics and the philosophy that goes into this field of study is highly experimental. This is one of those situations where "suspension of disbelief" is not difficult to do. I agree that some films make suspension of disbelief pretty difficult to do (all of the Die Hard films, for example).

I agree with you. But getting into the nuances of temporal information passing and temporal networking is way too complicated for general audiences. Most viewers will just accept that information can be passed.

I agree with you, here, as well. Xavier is a much better choice for temporal information passing because he can already "astral project" which really is a time-space mind projection thingie.

She was also special and he desired her genome above all others so it is much easier to believe he would never destroy his prized specimen. The others were disposable to him.

This is acceptable. Now if only someone had actually said that in the film or at the very least the producers could've come out and spoiled it like they did with the Charles and Charles conversation.

As for Mystique...yeah that makes sense. I still want to know how the hell

Spoiler:
Emma and Azazel were caught and killed. You're telling me the Company found a way to catch a telepathic mutant that could turn into diamond and a guy that could teleport anywhere? C'mon

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Who feels Logan was in this film to much?

Compared to the other movies, I don't think he took up the spotlight here too much surprisingly, despite being the one to time travel instead of Kitty as opposed to the comics, but they did make a nod to that with her abilities in the film, even though it didn't make much sense and has been argued about in this thread enough as is (didn't really bother me either, much as it can be nitpicked).

On a different note,

Spoiler:
the rest of the Inner Circle and such being killed off-screen was weak, yeah.
Weaker than the lack of explanation on how Xavier returned even. Maybe they couldn't get the cast who played those characters to return, so they just did that as a half-baked explanation for their absence... Regardless,
Spoiler:
Magneto must've not had as good leadership over them as Shaw did if even Emma and Azazel were caught & killed easily.
... Oh well.
Spoiler:
Not that Angel from First Class will be missed, and I lol'd when I saw her wings when Mags was stealing back that helmet.

Still, I give the film a solid 8.5/10 or so for what it is.

Logan's screen time was the sweet spot in my honest opinion.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Logan's screen time was the sweet spot in my honest opinion.

👆

Xavier was the lead in this movie, whilst Hugh being the one to time travel probably got the most screen time. This was the perfect way to keep him as the face of the franchise without crapping all over other characters whose time to be in the spotlight is long overdue.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anyone can follow it along and see the obvious implications.

Yes. That, once again, you did what you were told.

Good movie, but McKellen got the shaft and

Spoiler:
young!Charles decision to let Magneto walk was hilariously stupid.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Spoiler:
young!Charles decision to let Magneto walk was hilariously stupid.

You think so?

I think he just didn't trust humans to treat Eric fairly. Plus as violent as Eric is he usually only kills humans in self defense (just in this movie it was a preemptive strike based on what he found out about the future).

Not saying Eric's not bad in this movie, but he's not a black and white character, and it wasn't a black and white situation. And as Charles said when Beast asked him the same thing, he had hope for both Raven and Eric.

The thing I found hilariously stupid in this movie is giving zero explanation as to how Xavier was alive. (Even if you count the end credit scene from X3 that still doesn't explain how he's in an exact copy of his body including the paralyzed legs).

Xavier being alive (in his actual body) and Kitty being able to transfer consciousnesses were the two biggest middle fingers to the audience of this entire franchise.

lol

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You think so?

I think he just didn't trust humans to treat Eric fairly. Plus as violent as Eric is he usually only kills humans in self defense (just in this movie it was a preemptive strike based on what he found out about the future).

Not saying Eric's not bad in this movie, but he's not a black and white character, and it wasn't a black and white situation. And as Charles said when Beast asked him the same thing, he had hope for both Raven and Eric.

The thing I found hilariously stupid in this movie is giving zero explanation as to how Xavier was alive. (Even if you count the end credit scene from X3 that still doesn't explain how he's in an exact copy of his body including the paralyzed legs).

I do. Magneto is my favorite character in the cinematic X-Men universe, but young!Magneto especially doesn't suffer quite enough for his negligence and cruelties, in my opinion. I was so intensely satisfied when Charles punched Eric in the face in this film after (unintentionally or not) paralyzing him and ruining his life.

But then, naturally, we had to have a scene where Magneto "turns it around" on Charles in the plane because Azazel and co. were killed in a war Magneto helped start... but it's Xavier's fault for not preventing it.

Then, young!Magneto

Spoiler:
nearly assassinates the president, buries Xavier under a mountain of rubble, tortures Wolverine before dispatching him ("so much for being a survivor"😉, and generally acts like a total dick... and Xavier just lets him go without warning or threat? Not even a "Hey, your helmet's off and I could effortlessly lobotomize you, but I'm going to let you go just this once... keep that in mind the next time you and I get into it, *******."

I think there needed to be a scene in which he was put in his place. Kinda like the finale of the first X-Men movie: Magneto threatens to fight the impending war by any means necessary and Xavier, for a beautiful second, drops the warm demeanor and tells his "old friend" that he'll always be there to stop him, every single time.

I enjoyed the film for what it was but the back and forth future stuff got a little far out.

Originally posted by jaden101
Yes. That, once again, you did what you were told.
You said to quote you whereas I didn't. Poor dumb helpless thing you are.