X-Men: Days of Future Past

Started by quanchi11264 pages

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah a line like that would have gone far. That was a great scene in X1. But honestly I thought that message was implied. Eric knew Charles can own him anytime he wants now.

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There's really no "IYO" or "IMO" about it. The acting quality between McAvoy, Fassbender, Stewart and McKellen is by far the best I've seen in any superhero movie, except perhaps TDK.

Money made has nothing to do with acting quality. Although DOFP is clearly making a lot more than the previous films, and that will lead to Apocalypse making even more. So they seem to be on the right track now in terms of box office success.

No, as acting quality is subjective not objective. Look up what the words mean. When its an opinion its subjective, sport.

Money made is objective. I agree they are on the right track. I want to see more xmen films after that one.

Loved this movie! The post credits was exciting!

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

But if I said IMO Halle Berry's performance as Catwoman put Downey's performance as IM to shame then I think everyone would and should tell me that my opinion is clearly wrong.

I disagree. The point of an opinion is that it is just that....an opinion. I know people that thought the Green Lantern movie was just plan amazing and that Ryan Reynolds was great. The thing is they aren't wrong because thats what they believe. If they were to point to the color red and say its blue then that would be wrong. Sooo if someone enjoys an actors performance then that was simply a good performance to them and you can't say thats wrong because they can't be wrong when it comes to stating what they like.

Hey, Ryan was okay.

The script was shit, though.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Loved this movie! The post credits was exciting!

did u understand what they were chanting? 😛

Just back from seeing this

good movie

8/10

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I disagree. The point of an opinion is that it is just that....an opinion. I know people that thought the Green Lantern movie was just plan amazing and that Ryan Reynolds was great. The thing is they aren't wrong because thats what they believe. If they were to point to the color red and say its blue then that would be wrong. Sooo if someone enjoys an actors performance then that was simply a good performance to them and you can't say thats wrong because they can't be wrong when it comes to stating what they like.

I don't think many people complain about Reynolds acting for the part he was given. And he was pretty good as Deadpool and in Blade 3. I agree movie quality is something different.

Just think it's clear that the performance s in the new X-Men are on another level to what we usually expect from superhero movies.

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Every damn super hero movie should have this much action sequence in it.

Damn Amazing Spider-Man 2 was boring.

Hearing the yada yada of Aunt May have to get a part time job to pay for Spider-Man's university and stuff like that.

Then they give us 5 minute Electro fight followed up by a literally 2 minute Green Goblin fight and another 1 minute Rhino fight.

Damn that movie was ass.

Originally posted by Estacado

Then they give us 5 minute Electro fight followed up by a literally 2 minute Green Goblin fight and another 1 minute Rhino fight.

And surprisingly it cost more to make than DOFP! Talk about budgetary problems. DOFP gave us not stop action in a smaller budget, whilst TASM2 gave us 5 minutes of action in a larger budget and a longer film. Weird.

SM 2 also had crappier story,acting and actors.

It started of so good the whole web swinging in the begining the jokes like knocking on the window of the truck and crooning the spider-man theme song.

It got flat right after that first 10 minutes which is a shame.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
did u understand what they were chanting? 😛

They were chanting "En Sabah Nur" (Apocalypse's real name), which means the first one. (first mutant that is, unless you count Selene I guess)

On that note, the more of Poccy's backstory they give us in the next film, the better 🙂 (Kang the Conqueror traveling back in time to try and control him, how he gets his Celestial technology, etc).

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
They were chanting "En Sabah Nur" (Apocalypse's real name), which means the first one. (first mutant that is, unless you count Selene I guess)

On that note, the more of Poccy's backstory they give us in the next film, the better 🙂 (Kang the Conqueror traveling back in time to try and control him, how he gets his Celestial technology, etc).

i'm looking forward to see how singer handles Apoc...

Probably more like this due to "budget" reasons.

Not like this though.

Good movie. Needed more Quicksilver.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Probably more like this due to "budget" reasons.

Not like this though.


He didn't seem to have dem trademark lips in the DoFP credits anyway (at least from what I recall), so would make sense I guess.

As long as we get to see him alter the molecules of his body making him change his size among other things.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, as acting quality is subjective not objective. Look up what the words mean. When its an opinion its subjective, sport.

Money made is objective. I agree they are on the right track. I want to see more xmen films after that one.

Is pretty much universally agreed up on that the X-Men cast are far better actors than the Avengers cast. Plus they have the Oscars and nominations to back that up which is OBJECTIVE. Stop crying about it.

I hope we get celestial armor Apoc in the movies a short origin story would be nice though seeing him transform...etc

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Is pretty much universally agreed up on that the X-Men cast are far better actors than the Avengers cast. Plus they have the Oscars and nominations to back that up which is OBJECTIVE. Stop crying about it.

Universally agreed? I don't think so. That's your opinion

Those Oscars and nominations are for other performances, not for Xmen. The Xmen cast has a better body of work, but that doesn't OBJECTIVELY prove they performed better in Xmen than the Avengers cast did in Avengers.

And to humor you, RDJ and Mark Ruffalo have both been nominated for Oscars, SLJ is considered one of the greatest actors ever, Evans, Hemsworth and Scarlet have been nominated for various golden globe awards and Jeremy Renner is considered a premier leading man. So in terms of body of work, the Avengers cast isn't that far behind the Xmen cast.

That said, I agree that DoFP had performances with more range and emotion than Avengers. But they're different movies with different goals, so nothing proves the DoFP performances were better

Originally posted by Firefly218
Universally agreed? I don't think so. That's your opinion

Ok, I went a bit overboard with the "Universally" agreed. It's probably too soon to say that. But give it time and it will be. And I've honestly got zero respect for anyone whose actually going to argue the acting performances are better in the Avengers than in DOFP. The performances in that movie were superb. And that's not to say anything against Avengers.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Those Oscars and nominations are for other performances, not for Xmen.

Well obviously. What was the last superhero movie that won oscars? TDK is the only one I can remember.

Although DOFP deserves Oscars for the performances. It really does.

Originally posted by Firefly218
The Xmen cast has a better body of work, but that doesn't OBJECTIVELY prove they performed better in Xmen than the Avengers cast did in Avengers..

Like I said, the difference is so clear I have really no respect for anyone whose going to argue otherwise. The best performance in Avengers were by Robert Downey and Tom Hiddleston (who btw I was saying was a great actor before Avengers), but I'm sorry they were simply surpassed by Macavoy and Fassbender (in both First Class and DOFP btw).

Originally posted by Firefly218
And to humor you, RDJ and Mark Ruffalo have both been nominated for Oscars,

Whilst Jennifer Lawrence has actually won an Oscar. As has Halle Berry (LOL).

Originally posted by Firefly218
SLJ is considered one of the greatest actors ever,

He has a good track record of awards including an Oscar nomination. Yes.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Evans, Hemsworth and Scarlet have been nominated for various golden globe awards and Jeremy Renner is considered a premier leading man.

Whilst Fassbender, Mckellen and Ellen Page have ALL been nominated for Oscars and Golden Globes and Mckellen has won a Golden Globe as well. And talk about "premier leading men" Fassbender is much more sought after an actor than Jeremy Renner. That's not even close.

Originally posted by Firefly218
So in terms of body of work, the Avengers cast isn't that far behind the Xmen cast.

But they are behind. Your not going to win the "whose had more and better awards and nominations" debate so no point in going there.

Originally posted by Firefly218
That said, I agree that DoFP had performances with more range and emotion than Avengers. But they're different movies with different goals, so nothing proves the DoFP performances were better

I agree they're different movies with different goals and that the whole story/script of DOFP gave more of an opportunity for great performances. But so what? Fact is DOFP had better performances, so I don't see why you feel you always have to jump on The Avengers and Marvel Studios defense over everything. Can you not just admit that DOFP was superior in that category and leave it at that. I know Quanchi won't, because he's just a fanboy. He'll just say Avengers is better at everything without giving a reason, and just refer us to the OBJECTIVE BOX OFFICE.

But like I said if you want an OBJECTIVE account of who are the better actors, then just look at which cast has the best list of Awards and Nominations. And the DOFP cast has that. And that IS OBJECTIVE. So there you go.