DARTH POWER
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Originally posted by Firefly218
Universally agreed? I don't think so. That's your opinion
Ok, I went a bit overboard with the "Universally" agreed. It's probably too soon to say that. But give it time and it will be. And I've honestly got zero respect for anyone whose actually going to argue the acting performances are better in the Avengers than in DOFP. The performances in that movie were superb. And that's not to say anything against Avengers.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Those Oscars and nominations are for other performances, not for Xmen.
Well obviously. What was the last superhero movie that won oscars? TDK is the only one I can remember.
Although DOFP deserves Oscars for the performances. It really does.
Originally posted by Firefly218
The Xmen cast has a better body of work, but that doesn't OBJECTIVELY prove they performed better in Xmen than the Avengers cast did in Avengers..
Like I said, the difference is so clear I have really no respect for anyone whose going to argue otherwise. The best performance in Avengers were by Robert Downey and Tom Hiddleston (who btw I was saying was a great actor before Avengers), but I'm sorry they were simply surpassed by Macavoy and Fassbender (in both First Class and DOFP btw).
Originally posted by Firefly218
And to humor you, RDJ and Mark Ruffalo have both been nominated for Oscars,
Whilst Jennifer Lawrence has actually won an Oscar. As has Halle Berry (LOL).
Originally posted by Firefly218
SLJ is considered one of the greatest actors ever,
He has a good track record of awards including an Oscar nomination. Yes.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Evans, Hemsworth and Scarlet have been nominated for various golden globe awards and Jeremy Renner is considered a premier leading man.
Whilst Fassbender, Mckellen and Ellen Page have ALL been nominated for Oscars and Golden Globes and Mckellen has won a Golden Globe as well. And talk about "premier leading men" Fassbender is much more sought after an actor than Jeremy Renner. That's not even close.
Originally posted by Firefly218
So in terms of body of work, the Avengers cast isn't that far behind the Xmen cast.
But they are behind. Your not going to win the "whose had more and better awards and nominations" debate so no point in going there.
Originally posted by Firefly218
That said, I agree that DoFP had performances with more range and emotion than Avengers. But they're different movies with different goals, so nothing proves the DoFP performances were better
I agree they're different movies with different goals and that the whole story/script of DOFP gave more of an opportunity for great performances. But so what? Fact is DOFP had better performances, so I don't see why you feel you always have to jump on The Avengers and Marvel Studios defense over everything. Can you not just admit that DOFP was superior in that category and leave it at that. I know Quanchi won't, because he's just a fanboy. He'll just say Avengers is better at everything without giving a reason, and just refer us to the OBJECTIVE BOX OFFICE.
But like I said if you want an OBJECTIVE account of who are the better actors, then just look at which cast has the best list of Awards and Nominations. And the DOFP cast has that. And that IS OBJECTIVE. So there you go.