Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Elektra's fighting skill are not even on par with Batman. And Lady Shiva has beaten people far more skilled than Catwomen...
That's what you're saying. Doesn't make it true.
But not necessarily stomped them and she's been beaten by Tim and Cass. Elektra's a top tier MA, she takes Shiva down.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
I mean who has Elektra beat that is more skilled than Lady Shiva? She struggles with Daredevil and he usually holds back against her. Daredevil is not even that skilled compared to the people Shiva fights. Elektra also struggles with Bullseye who is not even skilled in martial arts...
So much fail in this post. Edit it or post again...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's what you're saying. Doesn't make it true.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But not necessarily stomped them and she's been beaten by Tim and Cass. Elektra's a top tier MA, she takes Shiva down.
No offense and not trying to be a dick but are you serious with this?
The fight with Tim was just Shiva basically training him and she wasn't even fighting serious. Tim only got fits because he distracted her with his staff. Tim even stated "next time she'll will have him for lunch." Meaning she wasn't even trying.
Cass is way above Elektra when it comes to fighting that its not even funny. Shiva has stalemated with Batgirl many times. IIRC she killed Batgirl and brought her back to life. The same Batgirl who was able to give Deathstroke a run for his money. Show me Elektra fighting someone as skilled as Batgirl or Deathsroke. Bringing up Batgirl is futile.
And Elektra is no where near the top tier MA in the Marvel universe, that's why she uses weapons and struggles with the likes of Bullseye.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So much fail in this post. Edit it or post again...
Why don't you ACTUALLY COUNTER MY POST...If it's a big epic "Fail" as you claim then counter it.
Yes Elektra is less skilled compared to the people Shiva has fought. Daredevil has not even completed his training with Stick and has not even mastered many styles compared to Batman, the same could be said with Elektra. Batman has mastered almost every single fighting style on Earth, yet he has asked Shiva to train him and acknowledged Shiva as one of the best martial artist on Earth.
What is Elektra even going to do with Shiva's body reading? Again counter my post if you actually can.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
How many styles/techniques has Elektra mastered compared to Shiva who masters different styles yearly...
Elektra started very early, too.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
No offense and not trying to be a dick but are you serious with this?The fight with Tim was just Shiva basically training him and she wasn't even fighting serious. Tim only got fits because he distracted her with his staff. Tim even stated "next time she'll will have him for lunch." Meaning she wasn't even trying.
Cass is way above Elektra when it comes to fighting that its not even funny. Shiva has stalemated with Batgirl many times. IIRC she killed Batgirl and brought her back to life. The same Batgirl who was able to give Deathstroke a run for his money. Show me Elektra fighting someone as skilled as Batgirl or Deathsroke. Bringing up Batgirl is futile.
And Elektra is no where near the top tier MA in the Marvel universe, that's why she uses weapons and struggles with the likes of Bullseye.
Cap, Logan, Taskmaster and others use weapons and sometimes struggle with lesser fighters, too. Doesn't mean they're not elite MAs.
Elektra beat Bullseye while severely weakened, drugged and poisoned, FYI. And Lester is a very skilled combatant despite what you think, you might want to read up on him sometime.
Cass is overrated and so is Shiva.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Why don't you ACTUALLY COUNTER MY POST...If it's a big epic "Fail" as you claim then counter it.Yes Elektra is less skilled compared to the people Shiva has fought. Daredevil has not even completed his training with Stick and has not even mastered many styles compared to Batman, the same could be said with Elektra. Batman has mastered almost every single fighting style on Earth, yet he has asked Shiva to train him and acknowledged Shiva as one of the best martial artist on Earth.
What is Elektra even going to do with Shiva's body reading? Again counter my post if you actually can.
Because I already spent too much time on you. But since I'm bored, I can entertain you a while longer.
Daredevil's long time hero career more than made up for that.
[LIST][*]Elektra beat Logan.
[*]She doesn't really struggle against DD, embarrassed him a couple times and in one of their modern fights it was Matt actually who went all out against her when she didn't even want to fight. Guess what, he got owned.
[*]Daredevil is crazy skilled and I've never been particularly impressed with "people Shiva fights".
[*]Your comment about Lester shows your lack of comic book knowledge.[/LIST]
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Elektra started very early, too.
Actually Elektra's training as a ninja wasn't even complete and after being resurrected by the Hand the Chaste rejected her altogether. So that tell's us that she has not mastered many styles.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cap, Logan, Taskmaster and others use weapons and sometimes struggle with lesser fighters, too. Doesn't mean they're not elite MAs.Elektra beat Bullseye while severely weakened, drugged and poisoned, FYI. And Lester is a very skilled combatant despite what you think, you might want to read up on him sometime.
Cass is overrated and so is Shiva.
When has Shiva beat Cap? Elektra has never beaten Wolverine. IIRC Wolverine was brainwashed and she struck him in the back while he was not looking with a knife. While beating Taskmaster is impressive, he unlike Batman, Shiva or Batgirl never really masters styles of his own and is just a copy cat.
As for the fight with Bullseye...Their fight suring Dark Reign I don't remember her being weakened. I actually remember Bullseye toying with her.
Just because Shiva may seem overrated doesn't mean Elektra wins.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Because I already spent too much time on you. But since I'm bored, I can entertain you a while longer.Daredevil's long time hero career more than made up for that.
[LIST][*]Elektra beat Logan.
[*]She doesn't really struggle against DD, embarrassed him a couple times and in one of their modern fights it was Matt actually who went all out against her when she didn't even want to fight. Guess what, he got owned.
[*]Daredevil is crazy skilled and I've never been particularly impressed with "people Shiva fights".
[*]Your comment about Lester shows your lack of comic book knowledge.[/LIST]
1. Like I said before Elektra never really beat Wolverine.
2. What? DD usually holds back against Elektra.Daredevil has never gave Elektra his all in combat because he doesn't want to hurt her. He's easily beaten the guy who killed her when not holding back. When did DD go all out against her?
3. How many styles has DD mastered since Stick left? Compared to Shiva or even Batman.
4. You thinking Lester is a top tier Martial artist is laughable no offense, but what feats does Bullseye have that put him on the same Martial arts level as Shiva? How many styles has he even mastered? What skilled martial artists has he fought and defeated. He was easily taken out by a Daredevil not holding back.
My comic knowledge is just great if you ask me. Anyways I'm getting some thing to eat.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Actually Elektra's training as a ninja wasn't even complete and after being resurrected by the Hand the Chaste rejected her altogether. So that tell's us that she has not mastered many styles.
Not really.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
When has Shiva beat Cap? Elektra has never beaten Wolverine. IIRC Wolverine was brainwashed and she struck him in the back while he was not looking with a knife. While beating Taskmaster is impressive, he unlike Batman, Shiva or Batgirl never really masters styles of his own and is just a copy cat.
Used Cap just as an example of a weapon wielder who's still one of the best fighters. You tried to discredit Elektra.
Wrong. She has. Elektra and Wolverine: The Reedemer.
Unlike them Tony has photographic reflexes and can boost his speed, so...
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
As for the fight with Bullseye...Their fight suring Dark Reign I don't remember her being weakened. I actually remember Bullseye toying with her.Just because Shiva may seem overrated doesn't mean Elektra wins.
It's obvious you didn't read the mini then, because Elektra's horrible condition was the major part of the plot...
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
1. Like I said before Elektra never really beat Wolverine.
2. What? DD usually holds back against Elektra.Daredevil has never gave Elektra his all in combat because he doesn't want to hurt her. He's easily beaten the guy who killed her when not holding back. When did DD go all out against her?
3. How many styles has DD mastered since Stick left? Compared to Shiva or even Batman.
4. You thinking Lester is a top tier Martial artist is laughable no offense, but what feats does Bullseye have that put him on the same Martial arts level as Shiva? How many styles has he even mastered? What skilled martial artists has he fought and defeated. He was easily taken out by a Daredevil not holding back.My comic knowledge is just great if you ask me. Anyways I'm getting some thing to eat.
1. Better don't say anything next time.
2. Wrong, wrong, wrong. He won because of his super sense of balance when he wanted to get his revenge on Bullseye.
In Brubaker's run.
3. You really think the number of mastered styles matters so much...? Think again.
4. I never said he's a top tier. He's close to being one, though.
DD's also got beaten by him, so what's your point...?
More like mediocre.