Lady Shiva vs Elektra

Started by kuraamyook16 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And Shiva has lost to Tim and Cass and has been one-shotted by Batman. Both women can be beat, so what?

Bullseye wasn't really going easy on her and Elektra was not just injured. She was drugged and poisoned, too.

To celebrate that big event, DC's gonna do another reboot!!! 😱 And one more reset after that, for a good measure.

She beat Cass too and Cass is better than everyone who beat Elektra including Kurayama and Hercules.

Tim Drake beat her by poisoning her. Kurayam and Hercules didn't poison Elektra, they flat out beat her ass, and an injured Widow stalemated her

Originally posted by kuraamyook
Elektra also lost to Hercules in a sword fight, he shattered her sai and then she needed the helm of ares to beat him, and he was faking defeat 😂

Hercules is Karate Kid level possibly superior.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Fail. Elektra has blocked multiple bullets with here sais and easily.

Bullet timing is a joke.


Who hasn't? Shiva kicked Katana's ass who was deflecting bullets from machine gunS in the same issue.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And Shiva has lost to Tim and Cass and has been one-shotted by Batman. Both women can be beat, so what?

Bullseye wasn't really going easy on her and Elektra was not just injured. She was drugged and poisoned, too.

To celebrate that big event, DC's gonna do another reboot!!! 😱 And one more reset after that, for a good measure.

I say retcon Batman into an actual mutated bat. That'd be awesome! 😱

It was a depowered Hercules in Herc's recent series, she couldn't beat a depowered Hercules without the Helm of Ares which turned her invisible

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And Shiva has lost to Tim and Cass and has been one-shotted by Batman. Both women can be beat, so what?

Bullseye wasn't really going easy on her and Elektra was not just injured. She was drugged and poisoned, too.

To celebrate that big event, DC's gonna do another reboot!!! 😱 And one more reset after that, for a good measure.


Mind-controlled shiva you mean?

Exactly, and just for the record even if Shiva lost to Tim Drake in a legit fight [which would never happen] Tim Drake is still better than a depowered Hercules

G2G be back later for more of Stiltmans lulz

Originally posted by abhilegend
Whoa, she beat Bullseye while drugged!!! Stop the presses.

He has used his extensive research on both DD and Elektra to do that. Recently an absolutely exhausted DD totally destroyed him. Punisher? Moon Knight? Hahaha, you seriously think that getting his ass handed to him by Punisher of all people makes him an A level MA? You and srank seriously overrate marvel MA. Its funny though.

Doesn't makes it any less humiliating.

You gotta admit it's much better than losing to some child adopted by a pervert who dressed up as a bat...

When did I say anything about A level? He's B level, acknowledged by Versus forum:

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [58]
Agent X, Artemis, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Domino, Donatello, Echo, Erik Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Hawkman, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Magnus, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Orion, Ozymandias (DC), Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23, Zealot

Still much better than you thought 🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
You were saying something about Cass beating Shiva when she killed and revived her to make her death wish true? Are you considering Cass and phucking bullseye at the same level?

Yep. "Doesn't make it any less humiliating" 😉

Joker trolled Cass.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mind-controlled shiva you mean?

Possibly mind-controlled, it wasn't confirmed actually.

Originally posted by SamZED
I say retcon Batman into an actual mutated bat. That'd be awesome! 😱

YES!!! Now that's a fresh idea!

Originally posted by kuraamyook
G2G be back later for more of Stiltmans lulz

Be sure to hurry up, clock is ticking, sock. The nose knows.

Deadpool second tier my ***! 😠

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You gotta admit it's much better than losing to some child adopted by a pervert who dressed up as a bat...

When did I say anything about A level? He's B level, acknowledged by Versus forum:

Still much better than you thought 🙂

Yep. "Doesn't make it any less humiliating" 😉

Joker trolled Cass.


Its not more humiliating than losing to someone like herc though. You are now playing forum level card, which means absolutely nothing. Nice try though.

Joker trolls everyone.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You gotta admit it's much better than losing to some child adopted by a pervert who dressed up as a bat...

When did I say anything about A level? He's B level, acknowledged by Versus forum:

Still much better than you thought 🙂

Yep. "Doesn't make it any less humiliating" 😉

Joker trolled Cass.


Nope, grodd was mind-controlling everyone. Also Loeb-batman would oneshot kill Elektra. In the next issue he oneshotted captain marvel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its not more humiliating than losing to someone like herc though. You are now playing forum level card, which means absolutely nothing. Nice try though.

You chose to ignore everything else, so yeah KMC MA hierarchy was my last hope.

Feats, fights, exemplary techniques copied by 3 photographic reflexes type characters and handbooks are more than enough to justify his place as a master ma here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, grodd was mind-controlling everyone. Also Loeb-batman would oneshot kill Elektra. In the next issue he oneshotted captain marvel.

He doesn't have that power. If he really were mc'ing everyone, why the villains weren't confused after Supes broke mind control by knocking him out?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You chose to ignore everything else, so yeah KMC MA hierarchy was my last hope.

Feats, fights, exemplary techniques copied by 3 photographic reflexes type characters and handbooks are more than enough to justify his place as a master ma here.

He doesn't have that power. If he really were mc'ing everyone, why the villains weren't confused after Supes broke mind control by knocking him out?


Because his whole history doesn't support him being a B-level MA. He is at best a C level MA.

The villains were confused? What are you talking about? Nightshade outright says "Where am I?" or something like that. Shiva, mongul and Grundy were KOED. The other villains came later and they were not mind-controlled.

If Bullseye was an A lister he wouldnt have gotten train wrecked by Daredevil so many times. Daredevil is an A lister, Bullseye isnt and Elektra sure as hell isnt

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t502532.html

Lotsa dumb in here.

Anyway, Elektra is probably Shiva's physical superior if we go by demonstrated feats of strength, speed, and coordination. She once shot a man from an amusement park ride while he was spinning around in the opposite direction on another with nothing but an antique crossbow. She's got loads of crazy stuff like that in her repertoire. The most impressive thing Shiva's done that I can recall was jump from the roof of a car onto a helicopter.

Shiva is skilled but I don't see her overcoming Elektra's speed, or even her stealth for that matter - which is good enough for her to disappear from Daredevil, Wolverine, and Fury while in plain sight.

Arguing over her loss to Bullseye is stupid, and bringing it up even more so after her not-too-log-ago appearances in Dark Reign where she blew up a bullet in his face and stabbed him with his own weapon, while severely drugged, injured, and poisoned from saving a civillian during the conflict.

I've probably had to type that out a million times here.

more importantly--where did herc beat her in a sword fight...?

Originally posted by leonidas
more importantly--where did herc beat her in a sword fight...?
It was in his recent series where he was depowered.

Originally posted by Konton
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t502532.html

Lotsa dumb in here.

Anyway, Elektra is probably Shiva's physical superior if we go by demonstrated feats of strength, speed, and coordination. She once shot a man from an amusement park ride while he was spinning around in the opposite direction on another with nothing but an antique crossbow. She's got loads of crazy stuff like that in her repertoire. The most impressive thing Shiva's done that I can recall was jump from the roof of a car onto a helicopter.

Shiva is skilled but I don't see her overcoming Elektra's speed, or even her stealth for that matter - which is good enough for her to disappear from Daredevil, Wolverine, and Fury while in plain sight.

Arguing over her loss to Bullseye is stupid, and bringing it up even more so after her not-too-log-ago appearances in Dark Reign where she blew up a bullet in his face and stabbed him with his own weapon, while severely drugged, injured, and poisoned from saving a civillian during the conflict.

I've probably had to type that out a million times here.

Shiva has already overcome Cassandra's speed, strength and skill, all which massively outclass Elektra's. On top of that Bats already stated that Shiva was as fast as Sensei and hit as hard as Ra's does so she's at least similar to Elektra physically, she's just much more skilled than Elektra is.

Elektra did beat Bullseye in Dark Reign but it doesn't offset her losses to him earlier, to Kurayama, to Hercules, a stalemate against an injured Black Widow, getting two paneled by Daredevil etc

Originally posted by kuraamyook
It was a depowered Hercules in Herc's recent series, she couldn't beat a depowered Hercules without the Helm of Ares which turned her invisible

Helm of hades not ares
🤓
Losing to an immortal in a swords fight isn't really a bad feat, especially one who destroys your weapon...
Nice try trolling though sock

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Helm of hades not ares
🤓
Losing to an immortal in a swords fight isn't really a bad feat, especially one who destroys your weapon...
Nice try trolling though sock
Oh wow, I made a error on the name of the helmet, doesn't change the fact that she lost to him

Hercules wasn't immortal retard, he was depowered in that series which took place after Chaos War.

So essentially a mortal Hercules bested Elektra, outskilled her

Seriously I know you're butt hurt because I embarrassed you on another thread but keep it in your pants kid, no one is impressed.