Originally posted by Patient_Leech
A HUGE hit.. crybabyWe waited 5 years for the writers to decide to throw out everything interesting that was presented in Prometheus. To me the movie shat on Prometheus. We didn't need to see the xenomorphs in the next film or any of the other fan service. I thought they would do some simple fan service with Covenant and then get on to some elements from Prometheus, but it looks like they threw out the more interesting elements, the grander mythology and are going to pursue some stupid tropes instead. Because of retarded fans bitching about Prometheus Ridley has settled for some stupid tropes for throw-away entertainment like he's trying to make the Fast and the Furious franchise in space because they're not doubt make it more and more ridiculous as they go.
Random thoughts:
First half or so is an awesome little sci-fi horror film. Ridley does excel at horror.
I actually thought the little character development elements were good, humanized the characters very well with some great actors.
Action scenes are not so good and felt thrown in unnecessarily, same with the xenomorph. Action scenes were very dark and not particularly engaging.
CGI wasn't very good.
Why did it take several writers to turn what could have been a fascinating mythology into a stupid trope of
Spoiler:ucking stupid!
an Android mad scientist with Daddy Issues. And the fact that David killed Shaw when he truly loved her is effing stupid and not even consistent. And he can control the creatures?? That's [b]f
The Engineers and the "black goo" are what was set up from Prometheus and their origins and uses would have been fascinating, but apparently "fans" want to see xenomorphs again and again instead of something more interesting. Fuck!
And I've read the comics that they did recently and it's obvious that they completely changed what they wanted to do because in the comics the xenos are all over LV-223. So if
Spoiler:
David created the xenos then they are going to have to explain how they got on to LV-223 and other planets
Goddamnit, the series is an even bigger mess now. The Alien films have always been sort of flawed (especially Resurrection, haha), but this is just getting to be too much. [/B]
I can talk all day and night about the issues Prometheus had, but the things it did well, the questions it asked? They REALLY dropped the ball in this movie. It doesn't deliver on any of the promise of Prometheus, nor did it really answer the questions people had after that movie imo.
My own feelings are that they wasted Shaw. They wasted the Engineers. They completely bum-****ed the lore by taking away what was one of the key, defining themes in the Alien movies:
That no matter how advanced or how clever you are, this is a species that cannot be controlled, and cannot be contained. Even Alien Resurrection got that right.
And that's not all. They ****ed with lifecycles, they made
Spoiler:. The Xeno birthing scene was AWFUL.
David the ****ing creator, which for me, just ruins twenty years of established lore
If not for Fassbender and McBride, I really wouldn't have cared about any of the characters in this movie.
The one thing I will say though, based on what I've heard people saying online: I don't think that we were supposed to be unsure that
Spoiler:. I think the intent was for us to know without any doubt, and to wonder when the characters would find out. It was just so badly done (like a lot of the movie).
David had switched places with Walter
And sure, people might say that not agreeing with Ridley's vision/decisions doesn't objectively make it a bad movie. And they'd be right. It makes the movie less likeable to me, but as far as quality goes, the bad writing, unfulfilling (not to mention stupid) characters and what ends up being a huge lack of tension, do that just fine.