Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) VS. Mace Windu (ROTS)

Mace wins with no difficulty.
Why ?
When Anakin taps into that rage/fury Mace will use it against him.
Anakin,Zone Anakin,hell Super Anakin is reckless
if he takes the high ground bait, he'll fall for any bait.

Mace can not be shaken by Fear
Anakin...well can be.... another weapon for Mace to use against him.
So where is this difficulty?
Force enhanced strength w/the brute force of Djem So?
Vaapad has this too,the Force enhanced strength I mean....

Oh the TK Difficulty? Wrong again, last I checked Anakin is not a Master of Force crush yet...
So TK won't help him here either....
Unarmed Combat? not even close.....

What difficulty then?
Oh when Mace was completely focused on Palpatine and out of no where decided to intervene out of Fear and confusion and very clouded judgement I might add he cuts off his saber/weapon hand and betrays him for a dark side power that Palpatine himself has no knowledge of.......

Another senseless bait just like a said before.Maybe if you add Palpatine
And Mace fights Palpatine instead then add Anakin (like the Movie)
Then you'll have your difficulty with the possibility of Anakin intervening...

Then you guys will have your difficulty other than that, Mace wins with no difficulty
A warning to Skywalker, maybe but no difficulties.......

^ So wrong it's painful.

xD

Originally posted by NTJack0
^ So wrong it's painful.

On-topic though, Anakin should be able to take a majority, 7-8/10.

Originally posted by NTJack0
^ So wrong it's painful.

What's wrong is you underestimate the power of Vaapad
and Anakin,Zone Anakin,Super Anakin,Who ever Anakins
Confused,misguided,reckless,blinded,attemp to save a poor,

defenseless,I'm too weak, Sith Lord.

I'll give you,The Force intervening through Anakin to stop Mace
from fore filling the Chosen One Destiny.

That I give you as a token of your comments...
but to say all these hyped up super Anakins beating Mace?
Saber to Saber?
Or I'm so scared "TK" is painful.....ridiculous.....

If I'm so wrong...Who's Fear always gets him to make dumb and careless
mistakes?

Who's Fear made him submit to a Sith Lord without even attempting to arrest
or fight the very thing He was created to do?...to bring balance to the Force ?

Like several posts ago,Who's Fear will give Mace the ability to use his Fear as a weapon?
Take a seat Skywalker.....

He should be 7-8/10,....but he's not.
He couldn't beat Obi Wan Kenobi!!!
In New Hope Obi Wan let himself be killed and became one with the Force.

A Master doesn't teach his student everything,
When they went their separate ways,Anakin still couldn't get Obi Wan
to teach him one last lesson,one last technique.

The difference is I'll admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong....
I don't feel like I'm wrong.
I'm just voicing what others are scared to say....

You have your opinions,I have mine and I respect other peoples views,opinions,etc.
If there is info to back up our claims,trust me I will find it,even if it don't exist...
I think inside and outside the box....I'm not afraid to find what is hidden or forbidden knowledge.

So in closing I leave a quote from a great martial arts master

Learning is definitely not mere imitation,nor is it the ability to accumulate and regurgitate fixed knowledge
Learning is a constant process of discovery....a process without end.

Good debate.....

Originally posted by juyomaster34
What's wrong is you underestimate the power of Vaapad

Exactly...my point...Anakin is the Chosen One.
Not Mace
Not Yoda
Not Dooku...

Jackie, Jackie,Jackie....Longtime no see my friend...
Through my learning I learned never to underestimate your opponent.
Male or female..
Animal or Nature...
internet or cyber space..

Vaapad is exactly what everyones opinion says it is....
its better...its not....its incomplete...its complete.
Same with Palpatine,Anakin,Zone or Super...Mace..too..

There were plenty of candidates to take down Vitiate,Palpatine,Darth Vader,
But the Force chose certain Jedi with certain capabilities.....
Maybe if I had said If The Force chose Mace then Palpatine would be dead,

Due to Vaapad and The Force plain and simple.
If The Force chose Yoda then Palpatine would be dead...
You can't separate Mace and Vaapad in a duel unless Mace is trying to restrain himself

and tries very hard to negotiate.....or search for a peaceful solution without fighting....
Gentlemen...ladies if there were some reading my replies.....
Again I respect everyones opinions....this is a friendly debate? right?
You say Annie wins...... I say Mace wins.....

put your lightsabers and your blasters down....if I'm wrong then reply why like my good friend
Arhael...Darth Power would go into full detail as would Galan007,Tempest and many others.
I can't do anything but agree or disagree......and Most of the time I agree.....

Anakin has twice fought Dooku in TCW (if you don't count Shadow Warrior) once in the CW movie and once in Crisis of Naboo. Both times, they were rather even in the saber duels. Mace is rather even with Dooku in swordplay as well, so I don't see why he should do any better than Dooku;

Among the other Jedi, perhaps only Mace Windu would have been his equal on neutral ground

-Dark Rendezvous

Dooku hasn't shown being capable of taking out Anakin within a minute in a strict saberduel and nothing suggests Mace should be able to.

Anakin, however, has two extremely good abilities;

*Very good resistence to force attacks

This is seen in TCW where Anakin continues to fight Dooku after being telekinetically thrown into a wall across the room they were fighting in, he recovers twice in the CW movie from Dooku's force attacks as well.

Mace, though, is arguably outclassed in comparison to Dooku as far as force powers go, so I don't see Mace harming Anakin at all, at best pushing him away a little bit.

His other ability is the most important one, though.

*Getting stronger as the fight goes on

This is confirmed in the Revenge of the Sith screenplay;

ANAKIN is stronger as he becomes angry.

As we know, Mace won't be taking down Anakin within a minute, meanwhile Anakin gets stronger, so unless Mace is able to disarm and kill Anakin extremely fast, in which I have seen nothing suggesting so, Anakin should be able to take out Mace as he becomes stronger and stronger.

Anakin 7-8/10

Thank you,good point...but I disagree with the getting stronger part.....
I didn't say he'll take him down in a minute...Where's the fun in that ?
Anakin is stronger as he becomes angry? right?
Here's where the super conducting loop kicks in.....

This is Vaapad is just as dangerous to the Chosen one as it is to Sith.
Arhael I know you're there...Alright here we go...
Ok here 's where somewhere Anakin makes a mistake

Now follow me,here everybody.....
Let's say Mace doesn't want to kill Annie
But Annie is forcing Mace to defend himself...
Now you said Annie gets stronger as he becomes angry

Friendly debate now,
I seen and I quote the super conducting loop making him equal to
whether its Force speed or Force enhanced strength
either or So if Mace gives more of himself to the Force and to Vaapad
then the same rules apply for him to get stronger,too.

If I'm wrong someone correct me.
But I don't think I am my proof (Shatter Point)
KEY WORD...ANGRY...

Let's not forget while in Vaapad mode,shatterpoint can be activated at anytime
The mistake could be the high ground or getting pass his offense or letting his anger
blind him into an easy victory .

You mentioned TK and Force Push.
They won't work,Mace Pushed Sora Bulq with the Force and knocked him out
to end their duel to save the others from Ventress

Arhael mentioned Sidious pushing Mace which he recovered and your point...
Dooku...He may out class Mace with the Force...
Question how would Dooku fare against Mace if he reflected his Force lightning?
Will Dooku deflect it ? Will he perish from his own lightning?

Or will he try to feed off it like a real Sith?
He'll be forced to duel Mace w/o him holding back.
Your pic shows the Magna Guards intervening and Dooku running away...
is it because of fatigue ? Or because Mace was overwhelming his Makashi
parries and blocks with the power of Vaapad?

Maybe both...Dooku always runs away when he's fatigued or overwhelmed....
Good Debate.....Anakin will give him a good fight....either way it be fun....

Vaapad didn't give any sort of advantage against Dooku, unless you're claiming he didn't use Vaapad in that fight, in which the burden is on you to prove it.

Well that I'm working on...
Unless you are talking about when Mace was a Knight or Padawan when they spared against
each other. whether he used Vaapad or not... he still overwhelmed Dooku....with either
Djem So or Juyo.

Good point....

It gave him enough advantage to not use Force lightning.
And run interference,oh and runaway...you know
he who runs away....

but good point I'll find out and let you know....

I'm talking about their fight I posted. There's absolutely no reason to assume so he didn't use Vaapad.

As for Dooku running, Jedi were hunting him.

why would u assume he is? it wasnt mentioned

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I'm talking about their fight I posted. There's absolutely no reason to assume so he didn't use Vaapad.

As for Dooku running, Jedi were hunting him.

Well,you're right ....I agree..Maybe he did....
The Magna Guards intervened....so its a tough call
Who's to say....you got a point...you win...for now...lol... 😆 😆

Same coin: why should I assume Dooku was using Makashi? It wasn't mentioned, after all...

...srsly

Hey KuRupt... what's up what's your opinion on this matter?
Hey,007 what's up!!!!

Both of you guys are right but, If you see Dooku do Makashi's salute like we seen in CW....
Or in the pic I know he's using Makashi that's his signature style so...what other style is he gonna use?
In CW we seen Assasj perform the salute and Dooku....
Same with Mace his signature style is Vaapad so what other style is he gonna use?
In CW we did not see Vaapad....don't everybody scream and shout at once...lol...

Sometimes you have to read between the lines,the pic,you know....