Freddy Krueger vs. Jason Voorhees (originals)

Started by quanchi11225 pages

Apologies are in order. I am shocked no one else on here watched the definitive documentary on the elm street films. I am truly the greatest elm street fan here. Obviously.

He said "in his mind, although not necessarily everyone's mind, he thought Freddy won". He's outright stating it's his subjective opinion and not objective fact. Also what in that interview supports your "Jason was dreaming at the end" claim? All they say was Freddy survived his beheading. Film points to Jason being the victor, with Freddy still alive making it a semi-stalemate at best.

You get a C+ for effort. Try not to ignore context next time 🙂

Originally posted by Lestov16
He said "in his mind, although not necessarily everyone's mind, he thought Freddy won". He's outright stating it's his subjective opinion and not objective fact. Also what in that interview supports your "Jason was dreaming at the end" claim? All they say was Freddy survived his beheading. Film points to Jason being the victor, with Freddy still alive making it a semi-stalemate at best.
Yu said in his mind Freddy won. They all gave their opinion on who won. I said yu believed Freddy won. His opinion is subjective I mean wtf. You didn't hold up to your end and I knew it. You disgust me to no end. Freddy is still ticking means it is a dream since he can't live in the real world minus a body.

I will never take you seriously as to anything you ever say again because you lied and torched your credibility for all time.

Who said Jason won in that clip ?

You are a biased fool who doesn't even understand the fact Yu's opinion is subjective as are all opinions.

Nope, you tried to spin it like Yu said Freddy was objectively the winner when it was really just his personal opinion. Your dream theory isn't supported by anybody.

You tried to take a quote out of context and win a debate with it. You failed. Try harder next time. Freddy is so disappointed in your sub-par support of him.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Nope, you tried to spin it like Yu said Freddy was objectively the winner when it was really just his personal opinion. Your dream theory isn't supported by anybody.

You tried to take a quote out of context and win a debate with it. You failed. Try harder next time. Freddy is so disappointed in your sub-par support of him.

Every opinion is subjective. Don't you grasp what the word even means. Yu can only speak for himself.

My dream theory is supported by the films and their history. When he dies in the real world he goes back to dream land. That has happened in the films. If you can't comprehend his powers and believe he can survive as a head in the real world then I suggest you rewatching the films.

Yu believes Freddy won. That was my claim. An opinion isn't objective by nature you tard.

Saying Yu believes Freddy wins is what I said. I was correct. You don't grasp what the word subjective even means. You aren't a man of your word. You are nothing but a skinny, sad little nobody.

Page two I made the claim.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jason died at the end hence why Freddy was winking and why Jason's eyes closed at the film's conclusion.

You are also ignoring a whole lot of context. The teens were actively working to help Jason against Freddy. Lori actually went into the dream world to help Jason while Freddy was drowning the scared kiddie version of Jason. Freddy was decapitated by Lori at the end so you're also ignoring that element of the end of the fight. You also are ignoring Lori scream out to distract Freddy for Jason to rip his arm off.

Jason has been destroyed before and has died many times but can regenerate back eventually whereas Freddy is still active in minds in the dreams world. Jason goes to hell he was destroyed at the start of the film.

Do some research.

Ronny Yu the director also said that [B]Freddy won. [/B]

100 percent supported by the clip. Lestov you are a moron.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Ronny Yu the director also said that [B]Freddy won. [/B]

hysterical

You lying little pussy. You didn't say he believed Freddy won. You tried to play it like he said it as an objective fact. Again, you took a quote out of context and it backfired on you. Start trying harder instead of crying harder, Alpha Centauri 2.

So Quan took a quote out of context. *shocking*

Originally posted by Lestov16
hysterical

You lying little pussy. You didn't say he [b]believed Freddy won. You tried to play it like he said it as an objective fact. Again, you took a quote out of context and it backfired on you. Start trying harder instead of crying harder, Alpha Centauri 2. [/B]

I said Yu said that Freddy won. He did. That was my claim on page two. If you don't know what the words Yu said Freddy won means that this only refers to his opinion. Who in the **** would speak for everyone ? Are you this stupid ?

Do I need to post definitions to help you out. Yu said Freddy won. My claim was proven. You're a liar and a boy who doesn't follow through on his word.

Yu believes Freddy won. That was my claim.

Saying Yu believes Freddy wins is what I said.

So you were lying when you said this. Classic Quimchi

Originally posted by Robtard
So Quan took a quote out of context. *shocking*
How did I ? Yu believes Freddy won. When did I say otherwise ? You cheerleading that is the norm.

Originally posted by Lestov16
So you were lying when you said this. Classic Quimchi
Yu said Freddy won. Yu said it. When did I ever say Yu speaks for the universe ? Find the quote as I already proved my claim, stringbean.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How did I ? Yu believes Freddy won. When did I say otherwise ?

That's not what you said.

Originally posted by Lestov16
That's not what you said.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Jason died at the end hence why Freddy was winking and why Jason's eyes closed at the film's conclusion.

You are also ignoring a whole lot of context. The teens were actively working to help Jason against Freddy. Lori actually went into the dream world to help Jason while Freddy was drowning the scared kiddie version of Jason. Freddy was decapitated by Lori at the end so you're also ignoring that element of the end of the fight. You also are ignoring Lori scream out to distract Freddy for Jason to rip his arm off.

Jason has been destroyed before and has died many times but can regenerate back eventually whereas Freddy is still active in minds in the dreams world. Jason goes to hell he was destroyed at the start of the film.

Do some research.

Ronny Yu the director also said that [B]Freddy won. [/B]

Ronny Yu the director also that Freddy won.

Word for word. True.

You're lashing out cos you're angry, relax, it's just the MVF. You love to ignore context and twist things to fix your bias. You should strive to be like me, a context adherer and objective poster. Try Quan, Try.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yu said Freddy won. Yu said it. When did I ever say Yu speaks for the universe ? Find the quote as I already proved my claim, stringbean.

Trying to backpedaling and act like you weren't using that quote as an objective standard to say Freddy won. Can you get anymore desperate?

Originally posted by Robtard
You're lashing out cos you're angry, relax, it's just the MVF. You love to ignore context and twist things to fix your bias. You should strive to be like me, a context adherer and objective poster. Try Quan, Try.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Jason died at the end hence why Freddy was winking and why Jason's eyes closed at the film's conclusion.

You are also ignoring a whole lot of context. The teens were actively working to help Jason against Freddy. Lori actually went into the dream world to help Jason while Freddy was drowning the scared kiddie version of Jason. Freddy was decapitated by Lori at the end so you're also ignoring that element of the end of the fight. You also are ignoring Lori scream out to distract Freddy for Jason to rip his arm off.

Jason has been destroyed before and has died many times but can regenerate back eventually whereas Freddy is still active in minds in the dreams world. Jason goes to hell he was destroyed at the start of the film.

Do some research.

Ronny Yu the director also said that [B]Freddy won. [/B]

Yu said Freddy won. Yu did indeed say Freddy won. Claim proven. You said Yu never said that. He did. Proven.

Do you understand semantics, Quimbo?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Trying to backpedaling and act like you weren't using that quote as an objective standard to say Freddy won. Can you get anymore desperate?
I said Yu also said Freddy won. The director gave his opinion and agrees. At no point did I say he speaks for everyone only himself. Yu agrees with me. Freddy won.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Do you understand semantics, Quimbo?
I understand words. I said Yu said Freddy won. Did yu say that ? Pretty simple, dummy.