Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That will depend on if superman is using superspeed and the distance he will have to accelerate his punch and how many punches he will trade with hulk before hulk can land a punch. Assuming that superman will stay in one place for hulk to punch.
This is a scenario that I think even Carver and Quanchi will agree with.
Superman lands the first punch given his speed advantage. For an opponent of comprable size I pick classic Mongol. Superman should land at least another shot before Hulk can respond.
No speedblitz, just a simple one-two combo.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This base Hulk bullshit has got to stop.Seriously, how many times does he have to immediately jump into a brawl with Top Tiers for it die?
He does have a lower end base but it's gone so instantly depending on the threat that if he enters a fight with Superman or Thor, it's safe to assume he's already as strong or close to them.
Originally posted by h1a8
If the definition of a slugfest is taking turns hitting each other (no blocking or bracing or dodging) then Superman and Hulk can split.If the definition is just a h2h fight restricted to just throwing punches then Superman wins because of speed (he can hit Hulk more times).
What's with the low balling here? Jeez, I left comicvine to find common sense.
Im not a Hulk fan but gong full retard in our debates helps nothing. What's stated in the Marvel hand books and trading cards actually mean nothing.
In the comics Hulk simply starts off at his class 100 level. In a forum fight, it's simply the same.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂 @ Superman and Thor. How many times namor has to stalemate hulk to prove that savage starts below superman level? Not thor level though, savage is already stronger than him.
Savage doesn't start off already stronger than Thor. Just looking at their fight should get that out of your head. He can just qucikly climb to a level where he surpasses him though, which is also clearly visible in their fight. He'd escelate beyond Superman with a little more time also. WWH starts off > Thor in strength though.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Savage doesn't start off already stronger than Thor. Just looking at their fight should get that out of your head. He can just qucikly climb to a level where he surpasses him though, which is also clearly visible in their fight. He'd escelate beyond Superman with a little more time also. WWH starts off > Thor in strength though.
As far as weight moved, or displays of collateral damage while trading blows with an opponent, the Hulk's showings have yet to become more than a fraction of post-crisis and DCnU Superman's highest feats out there, even if it was on one occasion in stated weight and collateral damage (earth's weight and damaging the fabric of reality).
Originally posted by Dolos
As far as weight moved, or displays of collateral damage while trading blows with an opponent, the Hulk's showings have yet to become more than a fraction of post-crisis and DCnU Superman's highest feats out there, even if it was on one occasion.
Well, unless you're saying that it now takes considerable more power than the benching of a planet for 5 days to best Superman in strength, that's hardly going to matter when these to go at it. Thor has superior strength feats to the savage Hulk also, which are noticeable lower than Superman's yet he finds himself in tough spots repeatedly with the Hulk. It'd be the same with Superman. It's what Hulk does best.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Savage doesn't start off already stronger than Thor. Just looking at their fight should get that out of your head. He can just qucikly climb to a level where he surpasses him though, which is also clearly visible in their fight. He'd escelate beyond Superman with a little more time also. WWH starts off > Thor in strength though.
Originally posted by deathlife
What's with the low balling here? Jeez, I left comicvine to find common sense.Im not a Hulk fan but gong full retard in our debates helps nothing. What's stated in the Marvel hand books and trading cards actually mean nothing.
In the comics Hulk simply starts off at his class 100 level. In a forum fight, it's simply the same.
That is shown on comics. If you have read from TTA to hulk 200 ar least , then you will know the ourage comes from claiming that hulk starts off at base level of 150 billion tons.
No one is denying his dynamic strength, just stating a fact with his base level at savage hulk and if you know more than leaders lair about hulk, please give me your website.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That is shown on comics. If you have read from TTA to hulk 200 ar least , then you will know the ourage comes from claiming that hulk starts off at base level of 150 billion tons.No one is denying his dynamic strength, just stating a fact with his base level at savage hulk and if you know more than leaders lair about hulk, please give me your website.
Show a scan of Hulk struggling with 90 tons or below.
Lol really? Then you are going to scream "lowballing"
For someone who crusades the hulk,you should know he does have dynamic strength but at calm or base savage hulk he is not even at city buster level.
Unless you confuse green scar persona with savage hulk again.
There is like 12 incarnations of Hulk and all of them are different fyi.
Ill get your scans tomorrow, right now im on tablet away from desk.
Hopefully you will finally give me refference number for retcon feat and the so misterious hulk vs doomsday fight you promised to post a long time ago.