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Originally posted by The_Tempest
And if it were a knockout move, that might matter. Instead, Caedus was still conscious and in command of all his powers... and couldn't overcome Luke's effortless hold.
Do you have anything indicating that he tried? With the Force, naturally.
Also, it was my impression that you agreed with me that it would have been much more difficult to break Luke's pin after he had pinned him. I believe you equated it to having your arms pinned behind your back. The guy might not necessarily be stronger than you, but its too hard to break out of the hold.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Kinky. But Luke muses that his brawl with Caedus "was supposed to hurt," it clearly wasn't meant to be a quick, painless affair.
Well there was a torture device just a few feet away that Luke could have pushed him into, if he wanted it to hurt....
Originally posted by The_Tempest
You're welcome to prove it, but you'll fail miserably, my son. Caedus doesn't need orbalisks or dark side nexuses to do cool shit, he's a real man.
Theres no indication that Bane does need either of those things, you feeble-minded jackass. I've yet to see anything from you indicating that a Force user is amped merely by a nexus' presence and doesn't need to purposefully access it.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
He sure did, right after resisting UnuThul's best attempt to ragdoll him, he amputated Raynar's arm and pinned him to a wall with the Force. Consult the source material, my son.
Actually he pins him to the wall with his hands, and then uses the Force to hold him there. UnuThul then tries to summon his lightsaber rather than resist Luke's hold. Also, Unuthul had just lost a freaking arm. The text notes that he can still fight despite this, but the effect would still have been debilitating to say the least.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I already presented you with evidence, my son. It's not my fault that your toothpick of a penis is engorged at the mention of Bane's name, robbing you of the blood supply needed to process my irrefutable argument.
If my penis is the size of a toothpick, then how can an erection possibly siphon off any noticeable amount of blood?
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Orbalisks weren't specified and peak!Bane is woefully ill-equipped to take on Luke. 😬
Peak Bane, son. 👆
Either he has the orbalisks or he's better off without them. I'm happy for you to decide which one is superior if you'd like.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
The text notes that Luke was taken by surprise, but I am not surprised that you only make note of such things when it favors Bane.
He was surprised by Unuthul's power. There was enough time for the other Jedi to realise what was happening and help him, so clearly there was enough time for Luke to respond.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
No one claimed that they were Force-sensitive. Force potential, as the passage later notes, is another term for life energy. It provides a tremendous boost, as noted by Jacen and Mara at various points.
Ok, but that's highly ambiguous. If Unuthul actually had any impressive feats we might be able to determine how good he actually is, but just saying that he was boosted by a large but unknown amount isn't exactly swaying me.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
He shouldn't, no. But then Vol, who "had much the power of Skywalker" pretty much did.
You mean before she killed him? 😉
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I produce a quote that says a world bristles with [dark side] energy and it's not a nexus, but Luke draws on the Force beneath him and it's magically a nexus.
Oh you.
No, I'm just unaware of where he is. He seemed to be drawing on something so I made note of that and suggested a nexus.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Anyway, you should probably take a gander at a little film called The Empire Strikes Back where this green guy called Yoda mentions how the Force is present in the environment.
Cool story. 👆
Still means that the feat wasn't done completely under his own power. And if he tries that against Bane, Bane could just as easily draw from the environment.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I never said it could be replicated in the heat of combat. But Bane is, on his best day, a mediocre warrior. Luke should have no problem batting him around if he dismantled a castle.
Haha, you ol' scallywag!
No. 😐
As I said, Luke did not dismantle a castle under his own power and in battle conditions. You can't exactly use that as an example for his fighting ability. And to call Bane a mediocre warrior is retarded in the extreme considering he's mastered millions of sequences and lightsaber combat to the point where he was declared 'beyond forms'. He also has extremely powerful Force Lightning and TK and either the orbalisk armor or speed superior to anything Luke has shown.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
YouTube video
Nothing there supports your argument. 😬
First Quote: Qui-Gon is talking about the technique he is using, he does not preclude the idea that this could be achieved another way.
Second Quote: Again, doesn't say that.
Third Quote: It mentions eternal life, which no Sith ever achieved and thus is not invalidated. Plus you know the RotS novel is written in third person limited narration.
Filoni: He never explicitly says anything. Haha.
Also you missed out on addressing the fact that Nihilus never died.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Palpatine specifically says "the ability to cheat death." Vitiate, too, was alleged to have possessed that power by his ability to make others immortal. This is a express and explicit violation of the films. It cannot stand. 😬
No, it isn't. As I said, Sidious is a fictional character and cannot say shit like that and have it be immutable fact. Considering the guy couldn't even get the age of the Republic right, I'm not taking anything he says as factual.
And that's wrong, Vitiate is not cheating death, he is simply living longer. Sidious is specifically talking about the ability to save others from dying i.e. midichlorian manipulation, as in literally cheating death by preventing it. It's a completely different technique and thus is irrelevent.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
So newer sources retcon older ones when it suits your argument, but not when it doesn't?
Sure. Too bad Palpatine isn't a source though.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Because ruling a fraction of the galaxy means one ruled the galaxy itself. 👆
Ruling a portion can still be termed as such, yes.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sorry, bro. George's vision is G-canon. Unless George specifically denotes where such feats are commensurate with his vision, they are a clear contradiction. 😬
You haven't proven anything other than that Palpatine said it. So... good job on that I guess. And as I pointed out, none of that applies to Vitiate or Nihilus, neither or which died, nor had the power to save others from death.
