Rate the Star Wars duelists

We know that GL established levels in saber battles.
CANON:
Level 9:
Mace Windu
Sidious
Yoda
Anakin

Level 8:
ROTS Kenobi

Level 7:
TPM Kenobi (probably DS)

Level 6:
TPM Kenobi (probably LS)

So how do others stack up to this. Rank your favorite characters/ anyone you want and discuss.

I'd say

PT

Level 9:
Sidious
Mace
Yoda
Dooku
Anakin

Level 8:
Kenobi
Shaak Ti
Cin Draalig
Maul (low 8)

Level 7:
Asajj Ventress
Kit Fisto
General Grievous
Plo Koon
Savage Oppress

ect. ect.

WTF is Shaak Ti above Maul? She got her ass handed to her by Grievous. Twice.

Pretty accurate rankings Mizukage Yoda.

Considering how well Grievous did against Mace in LoE, I wouldn't rank him as seven. Did GL say these levels are canon? I thought Gillard did, and his word isn't necessarily canon.

Given that GG was skillful enough to do okay against Mace in sabers for a short while, and begin to overwhelm Kenobi's defenses with his '20 strikes/second' feat, I think he may warrant a low level 8 ranking, while Kenobi/Fisto would warrant a peak level 8 ranking..?

Anyway, I agree with MY's rankings for the most part. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Given that GG was skillful enough to do okay against Mace in sabers for a short while, and begin to overwhelm Kenobi's defenses with his '20 strikes/second' feat, I think he may warrant a low level 8 ranking, while Kenobi/Fisto would warrant a peak level 8 ranking..?

Anyway, I agree with MY's rankings for the most part. 👆

Originally posted by ares834
WTF is Shaak Ti above Maul? She got her ass handed to her by Grievous. Twice.

Both times she was exhausted and scared as nuts.
Shaak Ti is a top tier blademaster I assure you.

"I pity you should you have to face off against any of the Council members. Must I demonstrate what would happen should you fight Obi-Wan Kenobi or Shaak Ti, Mace Windu, or stars help you, Yoda?"-LOE

"He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elan of an Anakin Skywalker; there is no- where in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become."-ROTS Novel

That's twice in a row she is mentioned in the same breath as people like Yoda, Kenobi, Mace, and Dooku. She is either an 8 or a 9 undoubtedly.

The first quote is false, Cin Drallig is mentioned instead of Shaak Ti.

Originally posted by ares834
WTF is Shaak Ti above Maul? She got her ass handed to her by Grievous. Twice.

Twice?

I know the first time, but it was after she fought about 20 Magnadroids, killed a dozen, and was tired and wounded.

Also according to The Force Unleashed, when Anakin/Vader was clearing the temple and killing everyone, she clashed with him and managed to survive and escape.

TOR:
Level 9:
Hero of Tython
The Emperor's Second Wrath

Level 8:
Satele Shan
Darth Malgus
Revan
Darth Nyriss
Darth Baras

Level 7:
The Exile
Lord Scourge

Second Wrath is the player Sith Warrior, I'm guessing?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Second Wrath is the player Sith Warrior, I'm guessing?

Correct, I figured I'd throw him a bone afterall he did defeat Baras and is a certified badass.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Correct, I figured I'd throw him a bone afterall he did defeat Baras and is a certified badass.

I haven't gotten that far yet. 😛

Don't worry, I assumed it would happen anyway.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda

I'd say

PT

Level 9:
Sidious
Mace
Yoda
Dooku
Anakin

Level 8:
Kenobi
Shaak Ti
Cin Draalig
Maul (low 8)

Level 7:
Asajj Ventress
Kit Fisto
General Grievous
Plo Koon
Savage Oppress

ect. ect.

I completly agree with You about tier 9.
About 8... a bit less, I guess.
I agree, that Drallig is tier 8 fighter. But I would say, he is low top 8, not Maul. He was smashed by Anakin who - at the same time - was choking a padawan (it was Bene? I didn't temeber that). Maul on the other hand smashed Opress, and fought Kenobi on equal terms aytime he met him.
I'm not sure about Shaak Ti. For me, she's more like top7 then 8.
I would like to add Sora Bulq to tier 8. He fought very wel against Mace, and lost to Vos because his overconfidence.

About 7... hm. Maybe Grievous is "low 7". In that clip, that Arhael gave us, it looks ike Fisto is trying to take Grievous alive. For me, both Ventress and Fisto are better then Grievous.
And - are You sure about Plo? Coz I'm not. I heard, that he forced Ventress to retreat, while he has his arm broken. Also, Maul put him along order's greatest duelists. Isn't he"low top 8"?

And some guys, that I have a probem with:
Plagueis - low tier 9, or high tier 8?
Agen - considered by Mace as one of the order's greatest duelists. He was cleary better then Vos. Low 8 or high 7?
Depa - well, Depa is Depa.
Qui-Gon - i heard, that he was almost on par with TPM Mace. Can anyone of you guys give me a quote?
Anoon - top 7, right?
Saesee - low 7?

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda

So how do others stack up to this. Rank your favorite characters/ anyone you want and discuss.

I'd say

PT

Level 9:
Sidious
Mace
Yoda
Dooku
Anakin

Level 8:
Kenobi
Shaak Ti
Cin Draalig
Maul (low 8)

Level 7:
Asajj Ventress
Kit Fisto
General Grievous
Plo Koon
Savage Oppress

I would change level 8's to:

Kenobi
Depa Billapa
Maul
Shaak Ti
Bulq (maybe)

Apart from that- good list.

But I personally don't think the levels should be attributed to the other characters in SW that were not mentioned by Gillard. I just think they're a frame of reference for those mentioned.

I think things are a bit crowded/the tiers are a bit wide, personally. So many 8s!

If I was to do legacy, I'd have to put almost everyone in the same tier, since most of the legacy saber fights fall into one of two categories: The same 8~ people, 2-3 per side, clashing with each other, or those 8 people carving a bloody wake through other saber wielders.

I agree, that Drallig is tier 8 fighter. But I would say, he is low top 8, not Maul. He was smashed by Anakin who - at the same time - was choking a padawan (it was Bene? I didn't temeber that). Maul on the other hand smashed Opress, and fought Kenobi on equal terms aytime he met him.
I'm not sure about Shaak Ti. For me, she's more like top7 then 8.

Dralliq was smashed by Anakin while Shaak Ti survived him and escaped.

Personally I'd put him at a high-7.

Tier 9:

-Mace Windu
-Yoda
-Darth Sidious

Tier 8:

-Anakin Skywalker
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
-Darth Tyranus
-Darth Vader

Tier 7:

-General Grievous
-Darth Maul
-Kit Fisto
-Plo Koon

ETC. ETC.

^Add Anakin and Dooku to 9 then I'd say it's a good list.

It's not perfect but...

Tier 9:
-Exar Kun
-Mace Windu
-Yoda
-Darth Sidious

Tier 8:
-Revan
-Anakin Skywalker
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
-Darth Tyranus

Tier (Low) 8:
-Darth Vader
-General Grievous
-Darth Maul

Tier 7:
-Qui-Gon Jinn
-Kit Fisto
-Plo Koon

Revan?