Originally posted by Mindset
What jaden said never happened.
Spot on
Riddick is better off as the anti-hero
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you misinterpreted my words. No, I don't care much for Riddick but I did like the idea of the Underverse. That was cool. You are always wrong.
but you are a bandwagon boi.....you basically said it yourself
and no we didn't misinterpreted your words.
Originally posted by KazenjiNo, I was a fan of the expansive universe not the character Riddick. To see more expansive universe a film needs to make more money. That's the point.
Spot onRiddick is better off as the anti-hero
but you are a bandwagon boi.....you basically said it yourself
and no we didn't misinterpreted your words.
Originally posted by jaden101I disagree.
No. He knew there was only 2 people in the group who wouldn't give him up if they escaped from the planet. He also knew there was only 2 people who would've claimed he'd died so others didn't come looking for him. He made sure the others died. He was a cold, bad bastard who did what he needed to do to survive. Chronicles was a complete change of his character. And not for the better.
Originally posted by jaden101I liked it so there goes your theory of no one liking it.
I think necros aspect could work as a lower budget series like Space: Above and Beyond or Babylon 5. Only way I could see that mythology expanded. It'd need to be a cult show. But it won't happen...cos it's too shit and no-one liked it.
Originally posted by jaden101
I think necros aspect could work as a lower budget series like Space: Above and Beyond or Babylon 5. Only way I could see that mythology expanded. It'd need to be a cult show. But it won't happen...cos it's too shit and no-one liked it.
I never thought the Necros angle was too far fetched. I mean there was an underlining theme in PB regarding having & not losing faith from Imam's point of view. Even Riddick seemed to have more respect for Imam compared to the rest of the group.
And as Imam was the common link between both movies...his beliefs & way of life came under threat by the Necros & Riddick felt somehow responsible for Imam's death & standing up for what he believed in.
Riddick may be cold hard & selfish when it comes to his survival but he's also ended up being the reluctant hero of lost causes in both movies.
I never said it was too far fetched. I said it was too shit. Not in concept but in execution. It came across like it was written by a 14 year old who thinks that names like 'necromonger' are anything but laughably bad. The concept also didn't really fit with what seemed to be the logical next step in terms of the development of the characters in the wider 'universe'. The county hunters fit well as pitch black made me picture humanity being something like what you see in the Serenity/Firefly universe. Spread out, some planets more civilised than others. Then all of a sudden they throw in Necromongers and Furyans and Elementals and all sorts of bizarre tech and posh accents and Shakespearean treachery. Completely at odds with the tone of Pitch Black. It might've worked outwith the Riddick aspect as it's obviously allegorical to stories such as Moses and so could have been expanded to other religious which could have been interesting so like I say. The concept was interesting. The execution was poor.
Originally posted by jaden101
I never said it was too far fetched. I said it was too shit. Not in concept but in execution. It came across like it was written by a 14 year old who thinks that names like 'necromonger' are anything but laughably bad. The concept also didn't really fit with what seemed to be the logical next step in terms of the development of the characters in the wider 'universe'. The county hunters fit well as pitch black made me picture humanity being something like what you see in the Serenity/Firefly universe. Spread out, some planets more civilised than others. Then all of a sudden they throw in Necromongers and Furyans and Elementals and all sorts of bizarre tech and posh accents and Shakespearean treachery. Completely at odds with the tone of Pitch Black. It might've worked outwith the Riddick aspect as it's obviously allegorical to stories such as Moses and so could have been expanded to other religious which could have been interesting so like I say. The concept was interesting. The execution was poor.
I understand & respect your opinions. For me, the execution was fine & the expansion of Necormonger & Furyan myth & lore suited the film.
You think, "Necromonger" is laughingly bad, that's fine.
My counter point is Lucas coming up with silly names like Darth Maul, Han Solo, Jar Jar Binks & Mon Calamari.
Twohy gave us, The UnderVerse. Lucas gave us The Force.
Christ, how creative is naming something, The Force?
Riddick constantly on the run with bounty hunters after him is a good theme but like the Rocky movies, they would quickly become predictable following a set formula.
You might've found the Necros, Furyans & Elementals at odds with PB...but then again PB was a simple crash & survive tale...the audience was never meant to wonder what the rest of the universe was like beyond the planet. And if I was to take a wild guess, I would say that Twohy found more inspiration in novels/movies like Dune than Star Wars/Trek.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Those names are silly to you ermmwhat would you call Mon Calamari....fish people, that's just as bad.
See that's where Lucas lacked imagination.
"It looks like a squid, therefore I'll put Calamari in its name."
"This ancient & omnipresent power that divides good & bad...A-HAH I'll call it The Force!"
Did Lucas ever imagine that Han Solo & Wookie would turn into masturbation references years later?
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
See that's where Lucas lacked imagination.
"It looks like a squid, therefore I'll put Calamari in its name.""This ancient & omnipresent power that divides good & bad...A-HAH I'll call it The Force!"
Just seems like your nit picking now
Did Lucas ever imagine that Han Solo & Wookie would turn into masturbation references years later?
Are they ?
first i've heard about it.