ROTS Mace Windu Vs AOTC/ROTS Count Dooku

I consider this the closest fight in starwars. Windu has Vaapad however Dooku has better force powers and there saber skills seem to be completely equal. There is evidence to support ether sides of the argument so personally I just put these two completely equal. 50/50 split IMO but if I had to chose I'd chose the Count barley.

The Count may barely scathe a victory here...if only just.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
The Count may barely scathe a victory here...if only just.

👆 My thoughts exactly.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
👆 My thoughts exactly.

The implications are there. Source books imply if anyone has an advantage it'd be Dooku. Windu himself considers he may lose to Anakin in ROTS undoubtedly because of his victory over Dooku.

Dooku also has immense force powers.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
The implications are there. Source books imply if anyone has an advantage it'd be Dooku. Windu himself considers he may lose to Anakin in ROTS undoubtedly because of his victory over Dooku.

Dooku also has immense force powers.

Agreed. Dooku also believed himself more powerful then any Jedi intill he met Yoda(and that includes Windu). I personally see Windu and Dooku as equals but Dooku has the SLIGHTEST of edges and would win barley in a fight.

Unless Vapaad has that whole superconducting loop thing going, when combined with Shatterpoint will hand Mace sabers quite handily.

Mace also has good Force defenses, so Dooku can't manhandle him like he did Kenobi.

I could see Mace taking the win, since it would be like what happened with Zonakin. Mace getting stronger over the fight as Dooku draws on the Dark Side more. Plus the ferocity of Vapaad is a harder counter to Makashi than Djem So is.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
The implications are there. Source books imply if anyone has an advantage it'd be Dooku. Windu himself considers he may lose to Anakin in ROTS undoubtedly because of his victory over Dooku.

Dooku also has immense force powers.

Yeah, apparently he once was able to take Kenobi and Windu at once. He lost, but it's implied he didn't get outright stomped.

The fight starts out even. Dooku gets a tiny advantage. Mace taps into inner darkness. Dooku gets sliced to pieces, similar to his duel with Anakin.

Dooku wins.

Originally posted by Vensai
Yeah, apparently he once was able to take Kenobi and Windu at once. He lost, but it's implied he didn't get outright stomped.

There were MagnaGuards aiding Dooku.

They are pretty equals with sabers, but Dooku is a bit better with the force. It may gives him an advantage.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The fight starts out even. Dooku gets a tiny advantage. Mace taps into inner darkness. Dooku gets sliced to pieces, similar to his duel with Anakin.

We seem to agree on many topics.

Originally posted by Zett
They are pretty equals with sabers, but Dooku is a bit better with the force. It may gives him an advantage.

To be honest, though I believe Dooku tends to be a bit underrated in these boards, I also think Mace's feats from Shatterpoint, CWC, CW etc. put him at almost ideal equal to the good, ol' Count.

Mace will win this duel, but just slightly.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
There were MagnaGuards aiding Dooku.

Yeah...because MagnaGuards~two of the finest blademasters the order has ever produced.

So what part of that fight is canon? Because Dooky shows a very impressive TK feat there and to survive a battle with Windu and Kenobi is impressive, even with MG's. Also, how many MG's were there?

Originally posted by axel_jovan
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It depends how we take Vaapad mechanics. The superconduciting loop should negate any difference in Force-power between the two (if there is a considerable difference that is)

To be honest, though I believe Dooku tends to be a bit underrated in these boards, I also think Mace's feats from Shatterpoint, CWC, CW etc. put him at almost ideal equal to the good, ol' Count.

Mace will win this duel, but just slightly.

And I believe, that Mace is overrated one. A lot of people believe, that he's top1 swordmaster of his times. But he is not. Yoda is.
1)As You pointed in another thread, according to script Yoda disarmed Sidious.
2) Dooku was unable to find any advantages when he fought Yoda twice.
3) Mace needed to broke the window, to slow down Sidious. Without that, the sword fight between them was pretty equal.
4) Dooku fought Mace twice - in CW: RH and Obsession. This two fights looks pretty equal (despite, that in RH Mace had Kenobi's aid).
5) Dooku looks better then Mace against Ventress and Bulq (even in saber fight - as I remeber he disarmed Bulq from one saber).

So it looks like, they (I mean Dooku / Mace / Sidious) are in the same league, along with Yoda and Anakin. But Yoda is a bit better.

And about force powers:
I dontt think, that typical dark force powers, like lightning, will give Dooku advantage. But I believe in his TK skill.

In RH they don't show the fight I believe and it went pretty fast with Dooku losing and Dooku had magnagurds and lost pretty fast. But still I agree with your post.

^ Well, I agree with the above.

Yoda and Sidiosu are at the absolute top.
Windu is not better saber duelist than Yoda, and certainly about equal to Dooku.
What I meant rather is that Windu's Force-power's are a bit underrated, and that Dooku, in general, is a bit underrated too.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
^ Well, I agree with the above.

Yoda and Sidiosu are at the absolute top.
Windu is not better saber dueilst than Yoda, and certainly about equal to Dooku.
What I meant rather is that Windu's Force-power's are a bit underrated, and that Dooku, in general, is a bit underrated too.

agreed with this post 👆

Personally I see Windu as the solid victor. Windu's younger and fitter and stronger in the force and while the battle would start out good the outcome would not be in doubt.

Sorta like Dooku vs Yoda- Dooku can hold him off but he certainly could not win.

I' argue that Doooku has a bit better Force feats .....but yeah, I also see Windu winning this, but just slightly.