Legalizing Illegal Immigration - Yes or No

ok, well i think i figured out how to make this happen. See i was so confuzzled about this idea. I mean, why would you even suggest making illegal immigration legal? What is the point of having laws if you're going to break them or change them just for your benefit? Then it hit me. I now know why this situation is so hard. we have two words at war here. Illegal and immigration. Just drop Illegal and then everyone will be happy. Ok, that's definitely how dem politicians must make these decisions. I better hurry up and get the **** out of this country before i become an illegal citizen.

Just why is the term illegal immigrant such an issue anyway? If somebody crossed the border non-legally, what else are they if not immigrants who came here illegally? If it's so offensive, what else do we need to get rid of that would be "inhumane" to describe somebody breaking society's rules? If intoxicated individuals driving cars hate being called drunk drivers, will that be gone?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Just why is the term illegal immigrant such an issue anyway?

In my experience the term "illegals" is what people take offense to, its dehumanizing.

just go to one of the border towns. Then you'll realize real quick who the illegal immigrants, immigrants and mexicans are. There is definitely a distinguishable line. im just saying there is a system set in place. The vast majority of the people use abide by and appreciate said system. When others say" frack that, i dont need no man tellin me wah to do, ima climb that fence". When this sober person wakes up on the other side of that fence. THE MAN asks the inebriated dumb shit what he was doing on this side of the fence. THe drunken fool responded by saying.."huh, wha ooooh yeah i don't know i hate dis cuntry, peace a crap it belongs to me though so i wann it back?
THE MAN...,walked away.

wut

The bill that will grant illegal immigrants citizenship might kick out anyone who came to the US after Dec. 31, 2011 and doesn't have a clean criminal record.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/12/reports-legalization-promise-spurs-illegal-immigration/

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Originally posted by Nemesis X
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/12/reports-legalization-promise-spurs-illegal-immigration/

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Gotta love the comments on that website.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Gotta love the comments on that website.

"Our once great United States of America, has been permanently destroyed by the rich elite low-lifes who are addicted to cheap slave labor."

No, I don't think we should legalize illegal immigration - but I do have a middle of the road [kind of] solution. I think illegal immigrants should be given some kind of special license, where they sign up - kind of like a union, to make sure that they can't be used as cheap labor. Also, I would put in a clause someplace that says "after you've lived here [blank] years, staying signed up and following whatever rules are put into place, you may start to apply for citizenship.

The license would also allow the illegal immigrants to be susceptible to all things that regular citizens have to do - pay taxes, give their fingerprints for record, etc.

It sets a sort of pathway for those who truly want to be a United States citizen. Of course, those who flout the rules and try to stay undercover should be deported.

It's just a sketch of an idea, so don't definitively quote me on this. But I think the US needs to start thinking about ways that illegal immigrants can be part of the society. Just my opinion.

Can we just start calling it LII? It's much easier.

I don't think it is so simple as a "yes or no" question. There are some very employable people all over this world who are trying to find a better life, and not only for themselves. Some folks have this crazy idea of building community. And a non-obtrusive/co-dependent/smart-working one at that. Nonetheless, the idea I'm trying to express is; Does it really matter is it's legalized or not? It doesn't Any person or people with enough drive and focus towards a specific goal will meet it. Complete annihilation, notwithstanding. IMO

Immigration reform will cost $6.3 trillion.

Driving down the salary of the lowest paid people in the country and making it harder to earn a living wage. ULN2003

Violent criminals released by ICE if they are 'Obama Dreamers'

Yeah, that site doesn't look like it has an agenda.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah, that site doesn't look like it has an agenda.

Nope, no agenda or massive, throbbing biases to be found there.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/08/beware-of-liberals-who-come-in-evangelicals-clothing/

Seriously, Nemesis, stop linking us this garbage. It's ****ing embarrassing.

We need our own Berlin wall running along the entire length of the border to keep illegals out. All trade should be handled via cargo ships and tractor/trailer traffic should be halted or even more tightly regulated than it is now.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
We need our own Berlin wall running along the entire length of the border to keep illegals out. All trade should be handled via cargo ships and tractor/trailer traffic should be halted or even more tightly regulated than it is now.

How much do you factor that would cost? Keep in mind you'd have to still patrol the wall and pay for its upkeep.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
We need our own Berlin wall running along the entire length of the border to keep illegals out. All trade should be handled via cargo ships and tractor/trailer traffic should be halted or even more tightly regulated than it is now.

let me guess, you are one of them small-government types?