Legalizing Illegal Immigration - Yes or No

Started by Bardock424 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
How much do you factor that would cost? Keep in mind you'd have to still patrol the wall and pay for its upkeep.

Ah, shouldn't be that much, just use some cheap ille......oh.

Originally posted by Robtard
How much do you factor that would cost? Keep in mind you'd have to still patrol the wall and pay for its upkeep.

I was really being facetious with that comment. As far as the cost, it would be cheaper than ObamaCare over the long haul..lol. I have no practical solution but something needs to be done to control the situation. I have no problem with immigrants seeking a better life in America, but it must be done the right way. Commiting a crime by illegaly entering a country is not the right way.

What worries me the most is not immigration itself, but the insecurity of our borders. If Latinos can cross this border illegally without being caught, then terrorist cells in Asia and the Middle East most certainly can do the same.

However, that subject is a different topic. My primary concern with illegal immigration is the social problems that it brings. I don't want my tax money to help provide free handouts, when I can't get half the things they are eligible for. I already despise people who sit on their ass drawing welfare and foodstamps when the vast majority are able to get a job, but choose not too. I realize illegal immigrants come here to work, but they get paid under the table and can take full advantage of the system at the same time.

Like I said earlier, I'm not against immigration, but it must be regulated and done the right way.

As far as I know domestic terrorists and terrorists staying legally in the country is a much, much, bigger problem than threats from terrorists crossing the boarder illegally.

Illegal Immigrants can surely not take full advantage of the system the same way you can (and they do pay certain taxes anyways, sales tax for example).

Originally posted by Oliver North
let me guess, you are one of them small-government types?

You think? Well, I'm a proud southerner, so I must be a Republican, huh

Actually, I could care less about government. I only care about issues that directly affect me and my paycheck. If I had my choice, i'd own an island and choose not to be governed.

Well, no government is pretty damn small , so I suppose you might be right, chief.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
You think? Well, I'm a proud southerner, so I must be a Republican, huh

Actually, I could care less about government. I only care about issues that directly affect me and my paycheck. If I had my choice, i'd own an island and choose not to be governed.

Well, no government is pretty damn small , so I suppose you might be right, chief.

mind=blown

you couldn't disagree with what I said, yet support the point I was making, in any more significant of a way...

Originally posted by Oliver North
mind=blown

you couldn't disagree with what I said, yet support the point I was making, in any more significant of a way...

You never made a point. You offered a guess as to what political viewpoint I may have regarding the size of government. As an 'intellectual' and 'big government' liberal, I thought you would know the difference.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
As an 'intellectual' and 'big government' liberal, I thought you would know the difference.

get out of my head!!!!

I bet you know I voted for Obama too!

EDIT: why is "big government" in quotes?

Originally posted by Oliver North
get out of my head!!!!

I bet you know I voted for Obama too!

EDIT: why is "big government" in quotes?

Good question. I usually assume it is for the person to distance themselves from such labels as they wouldn't use it in the real world. But he could mean it sarcastically.

Originally posted by dadudemon
sarcastically.

Bingo

Anyway, back on topic.

What does the sarcastic phrasing of "big government" convey from a conservative point of view?

Originally posted by Oliver North
I bet you know I voted for Obama too!

Damn it, I could have sworn you were a Ron Paul guy!!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What does the sarcastic phrasing of "big government" convey from a conservative point of view?

That liberals don't want a "big government" per se, just a crony government for their union buddies?

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Damn it, I could have sworn you were a Ron Paul guy!!

or not even American at all...

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
If Latinos can cross this border illegally without being caught, then terrorist cells in Asia and the Middle East most certainly can do the same.

No, they can't.

Edit: Double post.

lol no..