Martian Manhunter vs Gladiator

MM for a majority.

His strength and an incredibly diverse power set tips the scales in his favor.

Yep I see TP tipping it is favor of MM too, but it is still fairly close.
MM is an even worse jobber than Glads however.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Hehe. No getting around that one.

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Why are people talking about TP?

I feel like that's the one way J'onn wouldn't win!

Originally posted by curryman
Why are people talking about TP?

I feel like that's the one way J'onn wouldn't win!

then u dont know the chaacters

My general impression is G is physically mightier, but not enough to compensate for MM's versatility. If MM doesn't go punch for punch, I believe he should win.

Originally posted by Mindship
My general impression is G is physically mightier, but not enough to compensate for MM's versatility. If MM doesn't go punch for punch, I believe he should win.

Yeah, and the physical edge is more than nullified considering MM's other powers and ability to easily exploit Glad's weakness.

Originally posted by Raisen
Yeah, and the physical edge is more than nullified considering MM's other powers and ability to easily exploit Glad's weakness.

Originally posted by ODG
How exactly would J'onn replicate the exploitative measures utilized by Reed, Cannonball or even Nova Prime?

psionics

I don't think he'd replicate what they did, as much as he would exploit Gladiator's vulnerability to telepathy in a similar way to Cassandra Nova.

That said, I don't think he really needs to use telepathy, to be honest. Any strength, speed or durability gap isn't going to make a huge difference, and with J'onn's intangibility and invisibility, coupled with his shape-shifting, I think that's enough on it's own to get him an (albeit hard-fought) win.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think he'd replicate what they did, as much as he would exploit Gladiator's vulnerability to telepathy in a similar way to Cassandra Nova.

That said, I don't think he really needs to use telepathy, to be honest. Any strength, speed or durability gap isn't going to make a huge difference, and with J'onn's intangibility and invisibility, coupled with his shape-shifting, I think that's enough on it's own to get him an (albeit hard-fought) win.

telepathy is the game ender though.....i dont even see why j'onn would even go the distance with kallrak when he can be so easily dropped

Originally posted by Sin I AM
telepathy is the game ender though.....i dont even see why j'onn would even go the distance with kallrak when he can be so easily dropped

I don't consider it an auto-win, but yeah, it should be pretty effective.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't consider it an auto-win, but yeah, it should be pretty effective.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't consider it an auto-win, but yeah, it should be pretty effective.

i dont see how....glads powers are psionically based. j'onn (when he's not bullshitting) is a master level telepath. gladiator has shown zero resistance to tp, and the one instance that comes to mind is when rachel cast an illusion but that was cis when she could of just shut him down

Originally posted by Sin I AM
i dont see how....glads powers are psionically based. j'onn (when he's not bullshitting) is a master level telepath. gladiator has shown zero resistance to tp, and the one instance that comes to mind is when rachel cast an illusion but that was cis when she could of just shut him down

I was agreeing that telepathy would be a potent weapon...

Originally posted by -Pr-
I was agreeing that telepathy would be a potent weapon...

yea but not an auto-win...i just got that

I think J'onn's best option is to attack psychically and physically. He's a capable multi-tasker, and can attack Gladiator on two fronts at the same time.

What about Kal's heat vision? That could cause the match to change in an instant.

Originally posted by Stoic
What about Kal's heat vision? That could cause the match to change in an instant.

Not sure about that, tbh, especially with the inconsistency when it comes to J'onns weakness.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not sure about that, tbh, especially with the inconsistency when it comes to J'onns weakness.

yeah, and i think it would only be a real issue if the vision was used to ignite something. it's fire that is the issue, not just heat-related attacks. he's phased through lasers a million times, i don't see why he wouldn't simply be able to allow the beams to pass right through him.

i don't see this being an overwhelming majority for mm though. maybe 6-6.5/10 imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, and i think it would only be a real issue if the vision was used to ignite something. it's fire that is the issue, not just heat-related attacks. he's phased through lasers a million times, i don't see why he wouldn't simply be able to allow the beams to pass right through him.

iirc he's phased through heat vision before too.