Savage Opress vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi

Originally posted by mnat801
Any feats that Opress has had over Kenobi has been through surprise.

According to?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
According to?

And Obi-Wan & Anakin didn't crush Opress effortlessly in their first and second encounter... why?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
And Obi-Wan & Anakin didn't crush Opress effortlessly in their first and second encounter... why?

Remind me again what they were doing when he ran away?

And before the droids attacked him?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Remind me again what they were doing when he ran away?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
And before the droids attacked him?

Originally posted by mnat801
They were fighting... and then Savage ran away.

Right, right, but why didn't they catch up with him?

Originally posted by mnat801
Force push.

I don't remember them Force pushing him. I do remember them fighting for some time before they entered the hangar and Dooku ordered his droids to open fire. Why didn't Anakin and Obi-Wan annihilate him together? Seems like they had plenty of time to do so.

Originally posted by mnat801
I strongly disagree. Any feats that Opress has had over Kenobi has been through surprise. I'm assuming this thread is about Kenobi vs Opress in which both are prepared and in the right mind set for each other.

The first 2 times it was Kenobi and Anakin that sought out Opress to destroy him. So that's hardly Kenobi being caught by surprise.

The one time Opress hunted Kenobi down he took him out quite quickly.

Originally posted by mnat801
Now Opress may not have been in the right mindset, but for Kenobi to be able to do that much damage to Opress in Revival while having Maul to worry about, makes me think immediately that in a fair fight when both combatants are ready that Kenobi stomps.

And Opress seemed to have the edge over Kenobi and Anakin together. This when both Anakin and Kenobi were the ones who chased him down.

You can argue Anakin wasn't in his Uber Rage state. However I'm not sure what we can argue for Kenobi.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I was thinking more along the lines of who Savage has beaten and who Kenobi has beaten

His showings against Dooku and Ventress are actually much much better than Kenobi's attempts against those 2.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Why?

Because vs. battle feats are some of the most important, if not the most important thing to look at when judging vs. figths?

Remind me again the impressive performance against Dooku please? You also seem to foget that Kenobi has done well against Ventress... not all the time mind you.. but he has good showings against her.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Remind me again the impressive performance against Dooku please? You also seem to foget that Kenobi has done well against Ventress... not all the time mind you.. but he has good showings against her.

He has one good showing against her in TCW Movie. Opress battered a more powerful Ventress in "Revenge."

(That's ignoring a Rage boosted Ventress Force choking Kenobi and Skywalker in "Nightsisters", when 2 episodes later a Rage boosted Opress Force choked Ventress and Dooku.)

Opress floored Dooku at one point (with Ventress's help). One on one he's no match for Dooku of course but he was a far bigger threat to Dooku with Ventress on his side than Kenobi even was with Skywalker on his side.

So then nothing impressive then... okay... so who is the best person that Savage actually BEAT????

Adi Gallia.

Or Plo Koon.

Koon and Ventress.

Not to mention Kenobi once.

I'm beginning to think that no one likes Savage ;C

And that's sad because he's one of my most fav chars in Star Wars

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

And Opress seemed to have the edge over Kenobi and Anakin together. This when both Anakin and Kenobi were the ones who chased him down.

You can argue Anakin wasn't in his Uber Rage state. However I'm not sure what we can argue for Kenobi.

In that fight both struck me as pretty cautious- There were two of them, so they weren't taking any risks.

Originally posted by Q99
In that fight both struck me as pretty cautious- There were two of them, so they weren't taking any risks.

True but he flattened them with force blasts twice. So he seemed to have the edge over them, in that fight at least. But he was force choking Ventress and Dooku earlier, so clearly it was a one-off enhanced performance for him.

So nobody as impressive as Kenobi has beaten ?