Imhotep vs Voldemort

Started by quanchi11241 pages

Originally posted by Lestov16
Because AK doesn't work on immortals, as proven by the Phoenix, whom it failed to kill.
Phoenix can resurrect itself whereas Imhotep is just resistant to certain attacks. Imhotep can't resurrect himself on his own whereas that's the Phoenix's thing.

Imhotep "resurrects" himself every time he regenerates from a fatal gunshot. If AK truly worked then the Phoenix would be unable to resurrect itself.

AK also doesn't work on ghosts.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Imhotep "resurrects" himself every time he regenerates from a fatal gunshot. If AK truly worked then the Phoenix would be unable to resurrect itself.

AK also doesn't work on ghosts.

He is immune to mortal weaponry he doesn't come back to life he never dies. Once Imhotep dies he doesn't come back under his own power.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Yes he will. In a pure match, he'll do that which produces the most efficient win.

You have yet to show this immunity to Imperius that you think undead immortals have. You also have yet to prove the immunity of undead immortals to the Inferi spell. Imhotep may be a powerful corpse, but at the end of the day, he's a corpse, and thus he could be very susceptible.

As far as mortal weapons, I took it to mean that Imhotep was immune to physical attacks from tangible weapons. He is susceptible to magic, as both films prove. IDK if AK will work. since it didn't work on the Phoenix, but other spells should.

This is not a power set debate. You have them fighting and trying to kill each other. Voldemort does not attempt to kill via Imperious. He does not know on the onset that AK will not work so there is not actual reason for him to avoid using it.

I'm not saying they have it at all but we cannot assume it will just work since he is not human at all. Now this is where we get tricky: Do we know changing a corpse into Inferi is a spell that can be uttered like some others? Here's why i ask: in HP we see things like polyjuice potion that change the appearance of person and we see Voldemort needs a spell/potion to return to his “human” form. Unless we know exactly what is required to turn a being into an Inferi we cannot assume Voldemort can do it on a whim.

Magic came from an immortal source. HP magic comes from a mortal source.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort is immortal. Already been proven but try to disprove it.

Voldemort was against a lot of prep which took years and multiple people and sheer luck going their way.

A mortal easily beat him every time he showed up.

I don't want anything closed I'm winning. I can see you do though.

Nope. Mortal like everyone else.

Which makes it less of a loss?

Not when he was immortal

I don't. I'm enjoying the thrashing i'm giving you

Originally posted by Lestov16
The magic that turned him into a mummy and turned him mortal again. While I disagree with Quan that AK will do the trick, I do believe Imhotep is susceptible to magic attacks.

We see an other worldly figure come into play when his power was taken yet not when it was given. And we see a whole ritual was needed to place the curse yet a few words to remove it. May not have been the same magic at all.

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope. Mortal like everyone else.

Which makes it less of a loss?

Not when he was immortal

I don't. I'm enjoying the thrashing i'm giving you

Here is where you make things up. If he was like everyone else he couldn't resurrect a new body. Horcruxes. You just deny reality. 😂

A lot more had to be factored in unlike any silly adventurer easily beating Imhotep.

Yes, but you don't care you're biased.

You keep running while I respond in other threads and still trash you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here is where you make things up. If he was like everyone else he couldn't resurrect a new body. Horcruxes. You just deny reality. 😂

A lot more had to be factored in unlike any silly adventurer easily beating Imhotep.

Yes, but you don't care you're biased.

You keep running while I respond in other threads and still trash you.

I didn't say he was like everyone else. Try to stawman harder 😂. I said "Mortal like everyone else" meaning he will die... like everyone else

So he lost and you're trying to disagree by agreeing? He lost move on

Nope.

Running where? I'm here smacking you down on the regular 😂

There were zombies in the Harry Potter world and I don't think AK would work on them. Imhotep counts as an undead clearly...

Originally posted by Bentley
There were zombies in the Harry Potter world and I don't think AK would work on them. Imhotep counts as an undead clearly...
Speculation but they don't have souls either and Imhotep clearly does along with the ability to think and have human desires making the differences between them quite clear. Anything else you need me to clear up ?

Originally posted by juggerman
I didn't say he was like everyone else. Try to stawman harder 😂. I said "Mortal like everyone else" meaning he will die... like everyone else

So he lost and you're trying to disagree by agreeing? He lost move on

Nope.

Running where? I'm here smacking you down on the regular 😂

Imhotep also dies. Immortal doesn't mean unkillable it just means ability to live forever.

Context is everything though you try very hard to distance yourself from it.

Yes.

Hiding under your bed like you usually do.

Originally posted by juggerman
Unless we know exactly what is required to turn a being into an Inferi we cannot assume Voldemort can do it on a whim.

It requires a corpse, which Imhotep is. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I see no reason Vold can't turn Imhotep into an Inferi.

Originally posted by Lestov16
It requires a corpse, which Imhotep is. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I see no reason Vold can't turn Imhotep into an Inferi.

You mean it doesn't require a specific spell or ritual?

Originally posted by Lestov16
It requires a corpse, which Imhotep is. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I see no reason Vold can't turn Imhotep into an Inferi.
Crucio and Ak will work just fine on anyway. Juggs knows it.

Conversely, I think AK and crucio will be the only spells Imhotep is immune to.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean it doesn't require a specific spell or ritual?

I don't recall one. Vold should be able to turn Imhotep into an Inferi, as nothing suggests he can't. Imhotep is a corpse, and that's the only requirement for Inferi.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Conversely, I think AK and crucio will be the only spells Imhotep is immune to.

I don't recall one. Vold should be able to turn Imhotep into an Inferi, as nothing suggests he can't. Imhotep is a corpse, and that's the only requirement for Inferi.

Based on ?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Conversely, I think AK and crucio will be the only spells Imhotep is immune to.

I don't recall one. Vold should be able to turn Imhotep into an Inferi, as nothing suggests he can't. Imhotep is a corpse, and that's the only requirement for Inferi.

Can you post a link that shows him creating Inferi?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Can you post a link that shows him creating Inferi?
Why would he when you never back your own claims.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Can you post a link that shows him creating Inferi?

Can you prove that it's an arduous process rather than instantaneous? All we know is what Dumbledore said, which was

"They are corpses, dead bodies that have been bewitched to do a Dark wizard's bidding. Inferi have not been seen for a long time, however, not since Voldemort was last powerful.... He killed enough people to make an army of them, of course."

Corpses, dead bodies. Imhotep qualifies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Crucio and Ak will work just fine on anyway. Juggs knows it.
Prove AK can kill an immortal or stop claiming it can.