Imhotep vs Voldemort

Started by Lestov1641 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

The fact that he's an immortal, and as proven by the Phoenix, AK doesn't perma-kill immortals, and the fact that his rotting ass doesn't seem to have any pain receptors, even when Rick chopped his arm off.

Originally posted by Lestov16
The fact that he's an immortal, and as proven by the Phoenix, AK doesn't perma-kill immortals, and the fact that his rotting ass doesn't seem to have any pain receptors, even when Rick chopped his arm off.
Phoenix died but comes back. Imhotep dies but doesn't come back. he is just invincible to mortal weaponry. In movie you can't argue.

Prove it. He has a mind and feels. The guy commits suicide and feels pain at her fleeing from him. LOl.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Prove AK can kill an immortal or stop claiming it can.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Can you prove that it's an arduous process rather than instantaneous? All we know is what Dumbledore said, which was

Corpses, dead bodies. Imhotep qualifies.

So instead of backing up your claim, you want me to disprove it?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Prove he can resist it. Burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove he can resist it. Burden of proof is on you.
No it is not. You are claiming a positive: AK can kill immortals. You have no evidence to support this, you are wrong.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No it is not. You are claiming a positive: AK can kill immortals. You have no evidence to support this, you are wrong.
AK kills. If yo udon't feel it kills immortals prove it. Imhotep has been killed twice.

AK kills unprotected humans, not immortals. It never has, ergo you lose.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
AK kills unprotected humans, not immortals. It never has, ergo you lose.
Imhotep died to magic. Prove magic cannot hurt him. Your claim.

I never claimed magic cannot hurt him, I'm pointing out that a featless spell cannot be claimed to work on him because his power of immortality is directly opposed to it.

You have not proven the spell will work, so you lose.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So instead of backing up your claim, you want me to disprove it?

Pretty much. Or can't you 😉

Originally posted by Lestov16
Pretty much. Or can't you 😉

If he could do it instantly, why didn't he turn the people that were dying in the final battle into Inferi? after all, it would have greatly helped his side.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Imhotep also dies. Immortal doesn't mean unkillable it just means ability to live forever.

Context is everything though you try very hard to distance yourself from it.

Yes.

Hiding under your bed like you usually do.

Yet he is still mortal

So he lost or he did not lose?

No.

Right. Yet here i is

Originally posted by Lestov16
It requires a corpse, which Imhotep is. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I see no reason Vold can't turn Imhotep into an Inferi.

Again with the proving the negatives with you. Can you prove i cannot fly? So them i guess you should just assume i can right?

Look we see how Imperio works and even tho Voldemort has never done it on screen we can assume it is an option available to him on the fly. We see how the disarm spell works and even tho we never see him use it we can assume it is an option available to him on the fly. We see how polyjuice works and we was assume it is something he can do but not on the fly. Now we have never seen an Inferi made so we cannot just assume a wand flick will suffice. He may need prep time so until it is known how the process works we can not and will not assume it is a viable tactic here

Originally posted by Silent Master
If he could do it instantly, why didn't he turn the people that were dying in the final battle into Inferi? after all, it would have greatly helped his side.

He was probably concentrating more on molesti...I mean killing Harry. And with all the Inferi Vold had, you think he went to each one individual and performed a ritual? It seems far more plausible that he used a quick spell

Originally posted by juggerman
Again with the proving the negatives with you. Can you prove i cannot fly? So them i guess you should just assume i can right?

Look we see how Imperio works and even tho Voldemort has never done it on screen we can assume it is an option available to him on the fly. We see how the disarm spell works and even tho we never see him use it we can assume it is an option available to him on the fly. We see how polyjuice works and we was assume it is something he can do but not on the fly. Now we have never seen an Inferi made so we cannot just assume a wand flick will suffice. He may need prep time so until it is known how the process works we can not and will not assume it is a viable tactic here

No, because I've never seen a human fly. I've seen Vold with an army of Inferi though, so he definitely knows how to make them.

We don't know exactly what creates them, but it seems more plausible it was a quick spell rather than a long ritual or potion, as shown by the massive size of Vold's Inferi army. Sometimes we don't get direct facts and have to use logical thinking to provide conclusions.

Vold can create Inferi, so it's a tactic here. If you can somehow prove that it takes time to create Inferi, then Vold loses with this tactic, but it is a tactic he has available.

Originally posted by Lestov16
He was probably concentrating more on molesti...I mean killing Harry. And with all the Inferi Vold had, you think he went to each one individual and performed a ritual? It seems far more plausible that he used a quick spell

Having more troops would have helped him with that, but he didn't make any, which makes no sense if we assume that they can be made instantly, like your claiming.

So, either it's OOC for Tom to use it during a fight or it takes to much time to be used...either way, it's not a viable tactic for this thread.

Like I said, he wanted Harry, and was monomaniacally obsessed with doing that. He wasn't concentrating on the best strategy. Vold isn't omniscient. He can be distracted and illogical.

If it's OOC, Vold can most definitely use it. Please don't tell me you are resorting to Quan tactics about "arguing in character" 😆.

Like I said, if you can prove it takes time, then Vold loses with the tactic, but Vold has demonstrated it, and thus can use it.

Actually, Tom hasn't demonstrated the ability to make them mid-fight. and quan's version of OOC is anything that would hurt his side.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I never claimed magic cannot hurt him, I'm pointing out that a featless spell cannot be claimed to work on him because his power of immortality is directly opposed to it.

You have not proven the spell will work, so you lose.

It isn't featless since it has killed. Immortality here only works against mortal weapons.

The burden is on you since you claim the spell won't work here.

Originally posted by juggerman
Yet he is still mortal

So he lost or he did not lose?

No.

Right. Yet here i is

No, he is immortal and his immortality is much harder to get past then one spell and Imhotep is done.

What are you even talking about ?

Yes.

You never learn.