Superman and Silver Surfer vs Thor and Loki

Originally posted by h1a8
Dig deeper.
Why don't characters like Superman use their speed often in big matchups?
Is it because the writer is making the character not use their speed to show a good fight?

We all know how fast Superman is, we all know how fast Surfer is, we all know how fast Hulk is, we all know how fast spidey is, etc.

If spidey fought Hulk in a comic then Parker would be seen as a lot faster than Hulk. But if Superman or Surfer fought Hulk then it would be seen as they are peers to Hulk in speed (for the most part). Yet we all know Superman and Surfer are astronomically faster than spidey.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=577594&pagenumber=8#post14276388

Still waiting for the scans.

Originally posted by Horrificus
He's kind of fast.

Good job guys! 🙄

As you guys always say, "Thor Rules the Herald Tier!"

Kudos to you both, good friends.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Then what are their hands doing? And how can you tell it's coming from Surfer? It's radiating from both of them.

It's been a while since I read the comic, but based on what I remember of the Hulk/Surfer comic you referenced, getting Surfer through the barrier so easily definitely implies a high end level of power.

Well, he did sneak into Galactus' ship. I guess Galactus better hope Loki never tries to rape him, not barrier is going to be able to keep him out of that poop hole.

I don't think Loki wasn't at his best only because he fought Surfer like Thor, have I not made that clear? Alright bro, agree to disagree.

My main point of contention was you saying Loki lost, I don't believe that to be the case. I also don't think Loki's chances are horrible against Surfer either, that's bullshit imo.

Yes, because Surfer bruted through the barrier. I could see if Loki blasted Surfer through the barrier, but it's not the same.

Rom snuck into Galactus' ship. It's when he's actually trying to defend it that makes it difficult.
Though he better hope Galactus doesn't catch him:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/HeroesReborn-2-03.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/HeroesReborn-2-04.jpg

Poop

I'm not trying to shit on Loki like the other knuckleheads here, just saying he loses to Surfer. I mean since his upgrade, he's been written more powerful, and he's pretty ridiculously durable now.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed02Avengers1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed01aAvengers1.jpg

Fast enough to switch himself out for an illusion and no one noticed:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Fights/LokivsThorCorps02.jpg

Etc

The first scan isn't anything close to Superman's level or Surfer's level when they are at their best. LOL Loki reacting to an average Thor's thrown hammer somehow proves Loki can react and move to Superman's and Surfer's top speed?

The second scan doesn't show any speed feat that show's Loki won't be a statue in battle. How do we know that Loki didn't stop the waves, take a split second to manipulate them and send them back off.

The third scan is inconclusive. Bill was telegraphing by whirling the hammer before he threw it. Loki had all the time in the world to switch bodies with the illusion.

lol

Originally posted by h1a8
The first scan isn't anything close to Superman's level or Surfer's level when they are at their best. LOL Loki reacting to an average Thor's thrown hammer somehow proves Loki can react and move to Superman's and Surfer's top speed?

The second scan doesn't show any speed feat that show's Loki won't be a statue in battle. How do we know that Loki didn't stop the waves, take a split second to manipulate them and send them back off.

The third scan is inconclusive. Bill was telegraphing by whirling the hammer before he threw it. Loki had all the time in the world to switch bodies with the illusion.

Originally posted by h1a8
The first scan isn't anything close to Superman's level or Surfer's level when they are at their best. LOL Loki reacting to an average Thor's thrown hammer somehow proves Loki can react and move to Superman's and Surfer's top speed?

The second scan doesn't show any speed feat that show's Loki won't be a statue in battle. How do we know that Loki didn't stop the waves, take a split second to manipulate them and send them back off.

The third scan is inconclusive. Bill was telegraphing by whirling the hammer before he threw it. Loki had all the time in the world to switch bodies with the illusion.

Your math is wrong.

Well, this thread went to shit.

I tried to save it.

I bailed on time.