Superman and Silver Surfer vs Thor and Loki

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So is Thor and Loki and plenty of other people.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fanboy logic (Or illogic) is fun.

Sure is.

That's why Odin has displayed multiversal erasing powers.

Just to be clear here, Galactus 100%>/=Celestials>>Skyfathers.

Which goes back to why SS>Thor.

Originally posted by Dolos
Sure is.

That's why Odin has displayed multiversal erasing powers.

Just to be clear here, Galactus 100%>/=Celestials>>Skyfathers.

Which goes back to why SS>Thor.

It was the only logical conclusion.

Thor's God Blast would one shot kill Superman so hard, every other version of Superman would spontaneously explode.

😂

Even if Galactus is trillions of times more powerful than every God in the Marvel Multiverse put together x 30, how is that relevant to how Surfer vs. Thor goes? We've seen them fight multiple times, we now how they stack up.

I love the irony of it all. B*tching about how people ignore Superman's feats then literally doing the exact same for Thor and trying to come with your own fantasy conclusions. Go back to CBR noob.

This could go either way.

But the way I see it, Thor will beat Surfer for a majority. He's got his number and more often than not, Thor will win. But Thor's going to be injured by the end of his fight.

Loki's more than capable of going toe to toe with Superman. Superman's magic weakness might be exaggerated now and then, but it is there and Loki has the means to exploit him.

So Thor beats Surfer Loki holds on for Thor to help double team Superman and the brothers win a competitive fight.

Team 1. Superman can stalemate Thor long enough for Loki to lose to SS.

Surfer just doesn't go hard, ever. Superman rarely goes all-out. All-out is common place for the likes of Thor, Hulk, Juggernaut, etc.

Vs debates are a lot different than match-ups. In versus debates you have to consider feats and common recognition, not half-assed bouts with other heroes who are themselves holding back.

If I were Surfer and I fought Thor, I'd let the dull man have his "win", thinking he'd put up a good fight. Kinda like with Ozymandias and Comedian in before Watchman.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Team 1. Superman can stalemate Thor long enough for Loki to lose to SS.

Superman can beat Thor.

Surfer has used more versatility against Thor than vice versa. Considering they they're the most versatile heroes in Marvel, it's safe to say that they've both "held back". Regardless, Thor's got his number.

Originally posted by Dolos
Surfer just doesn't go hard, ever. Superman rarely goes all-out. All-out is common place for the likes of Thor, Hulk, Juggernaut, etc.

Vs debates are a lot different than match-ups. In versus debates you have to consider feats and common recognition, not half-assed bouts with other heroes who are themselves holding back.

If I were Surfer and I fought Thor, I'd let the dull man have his "win", thinking he'd put up a good fight. Kinda like with Ozymandias and Comedian in before Watchman.

Lol, keep reading your fan-fiction. Thor's fought an all-out Surfer, a powered up Surfer etc. He's at least as powerful as him with greater high end energy projection, almost as versatile and physically stronger with superior damage soak.

Thor at least takes 5/10, and most likely edges him out for a 6/10 (Mjolnir is a great counter for the Power Cosmic).

Again more ignorance. All-Out isn't common place for Thor or Hulk. I can't be as specific with the Jade Giant but I can tell you that Thor's tendency to hold back is a reoccurring and relevant theme in his books.

Edit: Read Greg Pak's Hulk run. He takes holding back to an entirely new level. World Breaker Smash.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Surfer has used more versatility against Thor than vice versa.

Versatility is SS's middle name, more so than Doctor Strange even. Thor's arsenal isn't much compared to SS, Thor may have been using 50% of his max power set, SS'd be using a much smaller percentage.

Originally posted by Dolos
Superman can beat Thor.

Nope.

Thor will God Blast Superman and in trying to absorb it like a moron, Superman gets wiped out of existence. The only time Clark will ever be more overloaded is when he bends over for Bruce in the bat-cave.

Originally posted by Dolos
Thor's arsenal isn't much compared to SS, Thor may have been using 50% of his max power set, SS'd be using a much smaller percentage.

Surfer is more versatile, but Thor is right up there with him. I'll dispute that any day.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope.

Thor will God Blast Superman and in trying to absorb it like a moron, Superman gets wiped out of existence. The only time Clark will ever be more overloaded is when he bends over for Bruce in the bat-cave.

Seems legit.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope.

Thor will God Blast Superman and in trying to absorb it like a moron, Superman gets wiped out of existence. The only time Clark will ever be more overloaded is when he bends over for Bruce in the bat-cave.

Superman will go sun-dip, and in the time it takes to charge the blast, any hope of Thor's blast being able to match Superman's speed if he decides to dodge is lost, in the event that the godblast is universal (how come it never destroyed the universe collateral?) Superman'd still absorb it...as mageddon was half-universal.

Originally posted by Dolos
Superman can beat Thor.
Beat him or not, it doesn't change the fact that the fight wont end faster than that of SS vs Loki.

Originally posted by Dolos
Superman will go sun-dip, and in the time it takes to charge the blast, any hope of Thor's blast being able to match Superman's speed if he decides to dodge is lost, in the event that the godblast is universal (how come it never destroyed the universe or even the solar system as collateral?) Superman'd still absorb it.

Typical Superman cowardice. But it's fine, he can go for a power-up and acquire a huge durability boost.

I'll even say that Sun Dip Superman can be hit with a Big Bang and it'd just make his nipples Super-hard. God Blast still erases him from existence.

He'd get erased so hard Surfer would grow a penis out of a shock.

Team 1 hard.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The God Blast was able to destroy Exitar's brain dome (While reinforced with the belt of strength). The dome is harder than Exitar's armor. Celestial Armor withstood the combined onslaught of three Skyfathers unharmed. One of which who is Odin who has demonstrated Multiversal level of power.

Ergo, the God Blast is far superior to power that can unleash Universal havoc and even pose a danger to the Multiverse.

The God Blast would one shot kill Maggedon and all of Wonderworld who were at best Universal.

Fanboy logic (Or illogic) is fun.

godblast is not viable

if thor decides to use godblast, he loses

godblast requires a charge up...and is a foolish tactic against two speedsters

Can't Superman just use the same technique he did against Darkseid in the final issue of FC? 😂

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Team 1 hard.

It's true, Team 1 does like it hard, but that's not really relevant to this fight.

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Anyways, I just realized I never really gave my opinion on who wins. I think this can go either way, it really depends on how they match-up. Superman/Loki and Thor/Surfer favors Team 2 more than Team 1 for example imo.

If I were to give Loki/Thor any edge, it'd mainly be because of better teamwork. They hate each other but they have fought side by side on many occasions, know what the other is capable of and how to work together. In a fight so close, that can be a difference maker.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Can't Superman just use the same technique he did against Darkseid in the final issue of FC? 😂

He should definitely try but Thor's manly muscles are to tough for Superman's girly voice.

Thor then proceeds to hit Superman with Multiversal level lightning. He's never been about that auto-tune shit.