Which universe is more powerful; Harry Potter or Lotr ?

Started by AncientPower14 pages

These are all stated by film writers/movie guides, if you knew anything about which you spoke of I wouldn't have to tell you this. But go ahead hide behind your desperate petulance as you flail about in your search to revive your necrotic argument.

Your points are delusional and you continuously switch goal posts.

Voldemort got killed by love, GG. /thread

Do you see now how far you are reaching and how absurb your conclusions really are?

Admit you know nothing about LOTR lore, and HP lore for that matter and we can all move on from your impotence and watch you succumb to your severe lack of knowledge on a topic once more.

Originally posted by AncientPower
These are all stated by film writers/movie guides, if you knew anything about which you spoke of I wouldn't have to tell you this. But go ahead hide behind your desperate petulance as you flail about in your search to revive your necrotic argument.

Your points are delusional and you continuously switch goal posts.

Voldemort got killed by love, GG. /thread

Do you see now how far you are reaching and how absurb your conclusions really are?

Admit you know nothing about LOTR lore, and HP lore for that matter and we can all move on from your impotence and watch you succumb to your severe lack of knowledge on a topic once more.

Then post the proof. I argue based off movie facts while you rant and rave about hyperbolic evidence. A Maia is just a title. It is meaningless. What matters is what these characters do for example

Gandalf in the films runs from orcs and hides up a tree and throes pine cones of fire at his enemies. A small band of orcs and their beasts against a Maia and his lack of badass dwarves.

The goalpost has always been which universe has more power. Hogwarts shield disintegrates. What feat from the Lotr competes with total disintegration ? Let's just conveniently forget that Voldemort destroyed it just for your sake at the moment.

Give me a feat from the films that competes with that.

Context. A sacrificial love protection spell one must die in order to cast. Voldemort came back to physical form.

Did Sauron ??

😂

Galadriel can create a country sized forest of mallorn trees and construct an entire city inside it, Caras Galadhon and then stop the effects of time casually without having to actually try, something far beyond a mere destruction feat.

Sauron in full form is immensely more powerful than her, infact it is stated that anything short of a direct attack from Sauron himself in physical form would fail inevitably against her power.

Sauron can disintegrate Noldor High-Kings by touching them, furthermore his illusions are of the greatest tier possible.

Galadriel alone is displaying demi-god tier powers, far stronger than any mere spell.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Galadriel can create a country sized forest of mallorn trees and construct an entire city inside it, Caras Galadhon and then stop the effects of time casually without having to actually try, something far beyond a mere destruction feat.

Sauron in full form is immensely more powerful than her, infact it is stated that anything short of a direct attack from Sauron himself in physical form would fail inevitably against her power.

Sauron can disintegrate Noldor High-Kings by touching them, furthermore his illusions are of the greatest tier possible.

Galadriel alone is displaying demi-god tier powers, far stronger than any mere spell.

What film does this take place in ? If I catch you one more time citing the films I won't take you seriously.

I don't want to hear speculation or theories of yours, etc. I want to hear movie facts that compete. If you can't give me a single feat then you concede.

Admit you know nothing about LOTR lore, and HP lore for that matter and we can all move on from your impotence and watch you succumb to your severe lack of knowledge on a topic once more.

Hey now, didn't you know, spouting off bullshit is a legitimate tactic, combine that with lack of LOTR knowledge and biased preconceptions and you have your usual run of the mill Harry Potter fanboy

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Hey now, didn't you know, spouting off bullshit is a legitimate tactic, combine that with lack of LOTR knowledge and biased preconceptions and you have your usual run of the mill Harry Potter fanboy
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!

I debate based off the rules. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
What film does this take place in ? If I catch you one more time citing the films I won't take you seriously.

I don't want to hear speculation or theories of yours, etc. I want to hear movie facts that compete. If you can't give me a single feat then you concede.

The only reality here is that you as usual have no counter-argument so you resort to hand-waving perfectly viable arguments that you can't formulate a reply to.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The only reality here is that you as usual have no counter-argument so you resort to hand-waving perfectly viable arguments that you can't formulate a reply to.
Movie feats only. Read the rules. This is the movie versions and you can't name a single feat. As a listed you're impotent and lack any punch since all you've done is break the rules and list book hyperbole.

Potter; hands down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is what you've been reduced to while,others debate. Carry on, girly.

You've yet to counter my points from two years ago and are still trying to pedal your failed points eg "Voldermort took down a shield!".

You also still don't know thing-one about LoTR and everyone can see that (again), why everyone is mocking you.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The Dark Lord Sauron with the One Ring has built indestructible buildings such as Barad-dur, he maintains the Nazgul simultaneously, he can controll all of the Rings of power and mentally destroy the strongest minds in the verse, he also lifted up Gil-galad and disintegrated him with his bare hand.

He in a vastly weakened spirit form has godstomped Mithrandir and effortlessly resurrected the nine. He has mentally dominated Saruman, the most powerful Istari before Mithrandir became the white wizard. He has effortlessly decimated the fortress of Dol Guldur which was sustained by his own power. He was also capable of mentally contacting Durin's Bane, Shelob and Smaug.

These are feats that are mentioned in movie guides or stated by Peter Jackson, Philippa Boyens and others who produced/wrote the film saga, they are thus movie canon.

Yep, so pretty much all of the stuff you just mentioned never happened in the movies. Frankly I don't care what Peter Jackson said or what books about the movie said.

Show me feats. Stop mentioning things that never occurred. Galadriel creating a forest? I must of missed that scene. Was it a deleted scene? Is it in the extended version of the movie?

I don't have the extended edition so tell you what..why don't you describe to me in detail what happens in the scene where she creates a forest and a city.

Originally posted by Robtard
You've yet to counter my points from two years ago and are still trying to pedal your failed points eg "Voldermort took down a shield!".

You also still don't know thing-one about LoTR and everyone can see that (again), why everyone is mocking you.

I know everything he mentioned didn't happen in the films. 😂

I also mentioned the shield and shield destruction feat as superior to anything Lotr has ever done. Beat it. You always want to flame because you're a shit debater. Your posts are always devoid of anything of value other than pointless insults.

🙂

LOTR.. easily

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LOTR.. easily
Give me a greater feat than complete disintegration from the Hogwarts shield. Go.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know everything he mentioned didn't happen in the films. 😂

I also mentioned the shield and shield destruction feat as superior to anything Lotr has ever done. Beat it. You always want to flame because you're a shit debater. Your posts are always devoid of anything of value other than pointless insults.

🙂

Look at you trying to deflect that you couldn't counter me two years ago.

Just like two years ago when it was shot down, you have yet to quantify how powerful that was and you are still ignoring that the shield had already been attacked for some time before Voldermort did his thing. So as noted, you're just dodging and ranting "Voldermort shield attack!" over and over without any substance behind it, because all your posts lack it. Everyone knows this about you.

Originally posted by Robtard
Look at you trying to deflect that you couldn't counter me two years ago.

Just like two years ago when it was shot down, you have yet to quantify how powerful that was and you are still ignoring that the shield had already been attacked for some time before Voldermort did his thing. So as noted, you're just dodging and ranting "Voldermort shield attack!" over and over without any substance behind it, because all your posts lack it. Everyone knows this about you.

So my point stands. Great. I'm exceptional.

Shield disintegrated bodies. What does Lotr have that compares to that ? I gave a feat so if you can't give one better you lose.

I'm quite excellent at debating. You not so much.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Give me a greater feat than complete disintegration from the Hogwarts shield. Go.

That wasn't the least bit impressive.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That wasn't the least bit impressive.
Name one better for Lotr. Since you think it sucks it shouldn't be hard to name one better. I'm waiting. You and Robbie sure can't even answer a simple question.

🙂

Galadriel banished Sauron, causing an earthquake and effecting the atmosphere by dispersing clouds, an effect that spread over miles. All whilst Dol Guldur and Sauron were draining her life energy.

A far greater effect than dozens if not hundreds of wizards combining their power to use a spell. Then hundreds if not thousands of wizards attacking the shield for a healthy amount of time before Voldemort used the most powrful wand in existence to destroy what remained of the shield.

Show me a comparable Voldemort feat that 1.Wasn't aided by hundreds of Death Eaters and 2.Wasn't aided by the Elder Wand.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Galadriel banished Sauron, causing an earthquake and effecting the atmosphere by dispersing clouds, an effect that spread over miles. All whilst Dol Guldur and Sauron were draining her life energy.

A far greater effect than dozens if not hundreds of wizards combining their power to use a spell. Then hundreds if not thousands of wizards attacking the shield for a healthy amount of time before Voldemort used the most powrful wand in existence to destroy what remained of the shield.

Show me a comparable Voldemort feat that 1.Wasn't aided by hundreds of Death Eaters and 2.Wasn't aided by the Elder Wand.

None of that has the power to completely disintegrate a person. 😂

The scope of the power has no bearing or relevancy on the intensity of the power.

I don't even need the Voldemort feat. Hogwarts shield wins this even without Voldemort destroying it while being resisted by his wand.

Scope absolutely has relevance you are using pathetic hand-waving tactics yet again to dismiss a superior showing.

Galadriel single-handedly banishes Sauron, which causes a visually 5.0 rated earthquake and causes the atmosphere to dispurse. A far more intense continental feat than any single-handed showing in the HPverse.

Please post a single-handed HP feat that compares to Galadriel effecting the majority of a continent and a very large part of the atmosphere as a mere side effect of her powers whilst being drained of her life force.

I know there isn't one because I've seen all eight films countless times.