Which universe is more powerful; Harry Potter or Lotr ?

Started by quanchi11214 pages

Originally posted by AncientPower
Scope absolutely has relevance you are using pathetic hand-waving tactics yet again to dismiss a superior showing.

Galadriel single-handedly banishes Sauron, which causes a visually 5.0 rated earthquake and causes the atmosphere to dispurse. A far more intense continental feat than any single-handed showing in the HPverse.

Please post a single-handed HP feat that compares to Galadriel effecting the majority of a continent and a very large part of the atmosphere as a mere side effect of her powers whilst being drained of her life force.

I know there isn't one because I've seen all eight films countless times.

No, it does not. Gandalf's goblin tk covered a greater scope of foes but the power is far less intense than complete disintegration. Banishing and. It being able to kill a diminished Sauron in no way is greater than the complete disintegration of physical bodies or withstanding the power or bolts it did.

An earthquake cant disintegrate an individual. That proves its power is less intense just covers a greater surface area.

If a room temperature is 75 degrees but the oven which is much smaller is 360 degrees which is more intense ?

Lol now you are resorting to arguing intensity. Dismissing earthquakes snd atmosphere dispersion as 'lacking intensity' really shows how little you understand physics.

That shield feat was accomplished with the entirety of Hogwarts whereas a near-death Galadriel accomplished a far greater feat single-handedly.

Post a greater comparable feat from a single HP character or I will assume you conceded and simply won't admit defeat. Saves me time.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Lol now you are resorting to arguing intensity. Dismissing earthquakes snd atmosphere dispersion as 'lacking intensity' really shows how little you understand physics.

That shield feat was accomplished with the entirety of Hogwarts whereas a near-death Galadriel accomplished a far greater feat single-handedly.

Post a greater comparable feat from a single HP character or I will assume you conceded and simply won't admit defeat. Saves me time.

This is the combined power of the universe. 360 degrees is clearly more intense despite covering a much smaller area. The same goes for disintegration. You're an idiot.

Molly weasley destroying Bellatrix's body.

😂

Rant and rave about Galadriel banishing a diminished spirit form and prove the earthquake and the size of it. Film feats. Go.

[QUOTE=15226424]Originally posted by AncientPower

That shield feat was accomplished with the entirety of Hogwarts whereas a near-death Galadriel accomplished a far greater feat single-handedly.

To be fair the hogwarts shield was created by four wizards so not the entire hogwarts community.

What scene in the movies does Galadriel create a 5.0 earthquake? This had to of happened in one of the recent Hobbit movies because it sure as hell doesn't happen in the original trilogy.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
[QUOTE=15226424]Originally posted by AncientPower

That shield feat was accomplished with the entirety of Hogwarts whereas a near-death Galadriel accomplished a far greater feat single-handedly.

To be fair the hogwarts shield was created by four wizards so not the entire hogwarts community.

Banishing a weaker Sauron isn't that great of a feat. Isildur killed an fully power Sauron.

If I am idiot then you must live in a zoo.

Oh and this is which universe is more powerful, Galadriel single-handedly has a greater feat than the entirety of Hogwarts combined.

Her earthquake was rated at 5.0-6.0 on the scale, then combine the fact that it dispersed the atmosphere for miles and miles around her and then add the fact this was a mere side-effect of her attack and then add the fact she was dying as she accomplished it and we have a feat on another tier from your own.

Oh and Sauron by that time had enough power to corrupt Greenwood the great into Mirkwood and cover it in illusionary spells, summon the spawn of Ungoliant from the north telepathically, summon Orcs from all corners of the world telepathically, summon the Nazgul from the High Fells far to the North and sustain their spirits. Oh and he godstomped Mithrandir.

Galadriel banished him despite all this power.

Provide a comparable feat or concede.

To be fair the hogwarts shield was created by four wizards so not the entire hogwarts community. [/B]

What? no it wasn't.

Originally posted by AncientPower
If I am idiot then you must live in a zoo.

Oh and this is which universe is more powerful, Galadriel single-handedly has a greater feat than the entirety of Hogwarts combined.

Her earthquake was rated at 5.0-6.0 on the scale, then combine the fact that it dispersed the atmosphere for miles and miles around her and then add the fact this was a mere side-effect of her attack and then add the fact she was dying as she accomplished it and we have a feat on another tier from your own.

Oh and Sauron by that time had enough power to corrupt Greenwood the great into Mirkwood and cover it in illusionary spells, summon the spawn of Ungoliant from the north telepathically, summon Orcs from all corners of the world telepathically, summon the Nazgul from the High Fells far to the North and sustain their spirits. Oh and he godstomped Mithrandir.

Galadriel banished him despite all this power.

Provide a comparable feat or concede.

Prover the earthquake and the power. That still doesn't disintegrate people. 😂

Illusionary spells are illusions. Hp can time travel for Pete's sake. 😂

Their magic is vastly superior. Hp solidly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Banishing a weaker Sauron isn't that great of a feat. Isildur killed an fully power Sauron.

Isildur severed his fingers and the resulting release of his spirit disintegrated hundreds of men and elves.

Okay wait, I found a clip of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9yjDlYSynw

I'm confused, I don't see an earthquake. Is it shown later on?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Isildur severed his fingers and the resulting release of his spirit disintegrated hundreds of men and elves.

You just hurt your argument with this though. If releasing his spirit disintegrates hundreds of men and elves, then if an earthquake was caused by his being banished you have NO way of knowing if it was caused as a side effect of his banishment as opposed to Galadriels own power.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Isildur severed his fingers and the resulting release of his spirit disintegrated hundreds of men and elves.
Yes, but the intensity just knocked them down. Scope does mean greater intensity. I already covered this.

Also prove the earthquake. You just keep making shit up.

Originally posted by Surtur
You just hurt your argument with this though. If releasing his spirit disintegrates hundreds of men and elves, then if an earthquake was caused by his being banished you have NO way of knowing if it was caused as a side effect of his banishment as opposed to Galadriels own power.
It doesn't disintegrate it just knocks them down.

I see, but the point remains that it did have a physical effect on things. So even if there is an earthquake(which I don't see in the clip I posted) it can't really be said it's all Galadriel's doing.

That is a very small version, the ground can be heard shaking and the fortress moving.

When Sauron explodes at the end of the battle the troops around him are pulled towards him and then the energy blasts them backwards, pieces of armor with no bodies can be seen in the background everywhere.

Besides physical Sauron losing the One and exploding because of it is very different from banishing the spirit of Sauron.

Originally posted by Surtur
I see, but the point remains that it did have a physical effect on things. So even if there is an earthquake(which I don't see in the clip I posted) it can't really be said it's all Galadriel's doing.
Ancient power just discusses book feats a d hyperbole. He can't prove even 1/3 of his claims.

Originally posted by AncientPower
That is a very small version, the ground can be heard shaking and the fortress moving.

So do we actually see a 5.0 earthquake? Yes or no?

Originally posted by AncientPower
That is a very small version, the ground can be heard shaking and the fortress moving.

When Sauron explodes at the end of the battle the troops around him are pulled towards him and then the energy blasts them backwards, pieces of armor with no bodies can be seen in the background everywhere.

Besides physical Sauron losing the One and exploding because of it is very different from banishing the spirit of Sauron.

So you can't back any of your claims. 😂

Originally posted by Surtur
So do we actually see a 5.0 earthquake? Yes or no?

Try reading the source material for God's sake. Jesus. Her banishing Sauron was vastly more impressive than the Shield feat. A feat Voldy couldn't even accomplish on his own. A shield that was already weakened before he even showed up. This was supposed to be impressive? It's not. The went into GREAT detail to illustrate Sauron's power. They show us the sword of Agmar which was buried with the WK. Saruman even notes... NOBODY on middle earth has the power to do that. He was including himself... The Lady and Gandalf just to name a few. Yet a weakened Sauron was able to do it. A weakened Sauron was able to punk Gandalf with ease. We know how powerful Balrogs are from the history and origins. They are corrupted Istari by melkor. Gandalf went life and death with one. Thus, Sauron punking him with ease show just how much power he has. Thus when the lady (which weakened) beat him and banishes him... It's far more impressive.