Classic Juggernaut vs Destroyer

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Classic Juggernaut vs Destroyer

No BFR.

Who wins?

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Unless he has his force field, Juggernaut gets beat the f*ck up.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Unless he has his force field, Juggernaut gets beat the f*ck up.
Lol I don't see how this would end. Would be a stalemate with them smacking each other around.

Destroyer knocks Juggernaut's face off with the eye beams

Stalemate or Destroyer.

Classic Juggernaut was unharmed even by Thor's Godblast.

Destroyer's not likely to do any better.

On the other hand, only Celestial power has brought down Destroyer from what I understand, and even that was temporary.

Strange that I've not seen this topic appear before now.

The most dynamic stalemate in comicbook history, on the face of it ...

Juggernaut had his force field there. Like I said, without his force field it will be like the beating he sustained against Thor or War Hulk except much more severe.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Juggernaut had his force field there. Like I said, without his force field it will be like the beating he sustained against Thor or War Hulk except much more severe.

I'm not sure I've ever known a case where Classic Juggernaut, lacked a force field.

The terms are synonymous for me. Perhaps I'm mistaken and there were some instances where he did not have one?

The only significant and explained exception that comes to mind, however, was where Jug fought Thor on some other planet and Thor found a way to BLOCK part of the Cyttorak magic.

He had to use one of Mjolnir's godly exotic powers to do that, however.
I don't think Destroyer has the same ability. If he did, I would agree with you.

This would be a total wash. Cain would be bounced around like a ball, but would never be put down. Stalemate.

Destroyer ultimately has higher echelons of power it can reach as evidenced by forcibly tapping into the power of Pantheons. Abilities such as those are dependent on the host, though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Juggernaut had his force field there. Like I said, without his force field it will be like the beating he sustained against Thor or War Hulk except much more severe.
he was never really Hurt against any of them, War Hulk never hurted him, he is as durable with his force field up or down.

Stalemate or Destroyer.

Juggs may win this (minus bfr of course). But most likely it's a stalemate.

Destroyer knocks juggs d*ick in the dirt

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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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Just wanted to point out that that is an alternate reality and he is also a mutant in that reality.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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Never saw that, where is that from? Add that scene to another long list of Juggernaut being very much vulnerable without his force field.

Originally posted by googol
he was never really Hurt against any of them, War Hulk never hurted him, he is as durable with his force field up or down.

What are you talking about? Both Hulk and Thor were beating the absolute crap out of him. IIRC War Hulk was about to straight up decapitate him (Been a while since I've read that fight) and Thor was like one punch away from laying him out.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I'm not sure I've ever known a case where [b]Classic Juggernaut, lacked a force field.

The terms are synonymous for me. Perhaps I'm mistaken and there were some instances where he did not have one?

The only significant and explained exception that comes to mind, however, was where Jug fought Thor on some other planet and Thor found a way to BLOCK part of the Cyttorak magic.

He had to use one of Mjolnir's godly exotic powers to do that, however.
I don't think Destroyer has the same ability. If he did, I would agree with you. [/B]

It's happened. Many times. I think it this point he's appeared without his force field more often than he has.

Pretty much every time he's been hurt it's because he lacked his force field. With it he's almost invulnerable to anything.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Just wanted to point out that that is an alternate reality and he is also a mutant in that reality.
Lady Sphinx warped 616 Earth into her own Earth. The characters there were 616, but had their origins changed.

If it was actually an alternate reality, then that means Lady Sphinx created an entire universe...

New Warriors 12, as well Rage.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Lady Sphinx warped 616 Earth into her own Earth. The characters there were 616, but had their origins changed.

If it was actually an alternate reality, then that means Lady Sphinx created an entire universe...

New Warriors 12, as well Rage.

Juggernaut was definitely a mutant in that comic. That shield is stated to affect mutants only. Plus Thor had no ties to Mjolnir or Norse Mythology. So Thor having such a radically different background/origin can mean the same for any and all the characters.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Juggernaut was definitely a mutant in that comic. That shield is stated to affect mutants only. Plus Thor had no ties to Mjolnir or Norse Mythology. So Thor having such a radically different background/origin can mean the same for any and all the characters.
A different origin doesn't make for different powers, and no one's power worked differently there.
And if the shield was changed to work for just normal cellular disruption, it would have accomplished the same thing.

Thor still had a hammer, he still shot lightning. And his ties were to Egyptian Gods since his name was Horus.

Most of them had different origins, they were still 616 characters that were being reality manipulated.

It's the equivalent of say Tiamut making Thor a Mexican God who uses a wrench.
It's still Thor, he just looks a lot different.

Now imagine that on a planetary scale.