Classic Juggernaut vs Destroyer

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus5 pages
Originally posted by googol
Thor has never bruised, bloodied, scratch, Juggernaut, not once... and yes you have to be at least bruised to be hurt, which thor has never acomplished.

So, just to be clear, you don't believe Juggernaut has ever damaged Thor either right?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
lol, what terrible art.

Also, was it ever said that Juggernaut had an "unlimited" healing factor?

He was able to survive as a skeleton in that one shot and Colossus healed from some pretty severe damage so the healing factor can be pretty up there.

But like with all characters with healing factors, it doesn't mean you can't be taken out. Captain Universe beat the absolute shit out of Juggernaut put him in a mini-coma IIRC and Onslaught knocked him the hell out. Thor was also about to knock him out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
But like with all characters with healing factors, it doesn't mean you can't be taken out. Captain Universe beat the absolute shit out of Juggernaut put him in a mini-coma IIRC and Onslaught knocked him the hell out. Thor was also about to knock him out.

the whole Cap Universe was just bad drawing, even Cap said so, he said he knew he could not hurt juggernaut physically or mentally with his helmet on, so all he did was us its PC powers to open juggernaut's helmet and "Mind Blast" him which knock him out, how the hell a Mind blast was able to bruise juggernaut's face its beyod resaon, anyways this is a feat Thor cant pull neither the Destroyer(no mental attacks) so any of you can forget about it... Onslaught just knocked him over a long distance, no sign of broken bones or even bruised face....

and Thor never Knocked him out, just as much as War hulk never did hurt Juggernaut

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So, just to be clear, you don't believe Juggernaut has ever damaged Thor either right?
He never really tried... 😄

in the 8th day he was hurting him in a bear hugg

Originally posted by googol
He never really tried... 😄

in the 8th day he was hurting him in a bear hugg

Cute trolling. No, he wasn't. Thor didn't even have so much as a bruise, try again.

Originally posted by googol
the whole Cap Universe was just bad drawing, even Cap said so, he said he knew he could not hurt juggernaut physically or mentally with his helmet on, so all he did was us its PC powers to open juggernaut's helmet and "Mind Blast" him which knock him out, how the hell a Mind blast was able to bruise juggernaut's face its beyod resaon, anyways this is a feat Thor cant pull neither the Destroyer(no mental attacks) so any of you can forget about it... Onslaught just knocked him over a long distance, no sign of broken bones or even bruised face....

and Thor never Knocked him out, just as much as War hulk never did hurt Juggernaut

What? Captain Universe beat his ass black and blue. He only ripped off Juggernaut's helmet to probe his mind for a weakness. Turned out it was punches:

Eh? Pretty sure Onslaught ripped into his chest and he ended up knocked out at the X-men's lawn but it's been a while.

Thanos nearly killed Silver Surfer and we didn't see any blood, Thor nearly killed Red Hulk in there second fight, that's flawed logic if there you are beating on must show blood or something, just stupid!!

I think writters have done away with Juggernaut unbreakable invulnerability. The more time passed, the more commonly it became to injure him.

Originally posted by carver9
I think writters have done away with Juggernaut unbreakable invulnerability. The more time passed, the more commonly it became to injure him.
Except Hulk has never hurt juggernaut, not once

and as for low feats, Hulk and Thor has been shown as Not Bullet proof(on panel) yet Juggernaut has never had such issues..

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

What? Captain Universe beat his ass black and blue. He only ripped off Juggernaut's helmet to probe his mind for a weakness. Turned out it was punches:

.

Wrong Again....

CU never punched Juggernaut, he use a mindblast. you really are grasping at straws arent you? you are a fool if you believe punches can hurt juggernaut's face at all.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
There we go, was that so hard?

Although that makes the feat possibly universal, it doesn't change much since it's still the same characters being used from 616.

That scan was not readily available to me. After I got done with playing Gears with my bud, I did a simple search on Google, something you can't seem to do, found a torrent, cut my grass, came back in, download was done and posted that scan.

At least now you know there is no doubt you are wrong and just making a fool of yourself. Its best not to take incorrect and assumed information like you do a post it as fact.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
That scan was not readily available to me. After I got done with playing Gears with my bud, I did a simple search on Google, something you can't seem to do, found a torrent, cut my grass, came back in, download was done and posted that scan.

At least now you know there is no doubt you are wrong and just making a fool of yourself. Its best not to take incorrect and assumed information like you do a post it as fact.

Why would I go looking for something when all my proof was there in the comic? Do you listen to yourself?
I'm wrong about the reality (although it's still 616 characters so that's irrelevant like I said a while ago), but lol at me having to go find a sentence that seemingly goes against the comic.

But yes, wrong on the unimportant aspect. And you literally ignored my point to gloat about nothing. It being an alternate reality doesn't change the fact that the were 616 characters that warped into those characters, and then were warped back.

Onto the original point of posting those scans...

Anyway, if a torch, D'Sprayre, Hulk, Nimrod, Thor (when he took his shield down), Rulk, Onslaught, GayponytailsStar, Captain Universe, and a shield that effects him on a cellular level can damage Juggernaut physically, then Destroyer is going to tear Juggernaut in half

Lol, you really are stupid. We're done. 616 characters? Juggernaut is not a mutant, Thor is not Egyptian. The proof in the comic is that it was not the 616 Earth. These characters still exist on Earth 9105 as they were shown to be brought in on a different Avengers story. There is more to that earth than simply being "warped" back. I proved you wrong on several things and yet you still cling to false info as if you think it wins you the argument. You could post a response to this, but you've lost credibility in all this and I don't care enough to respond to you.

Good day.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Lol, you really are stupid. We're done. 616 characters? Juggernaut is not a mutant, Thor is not Egyptian. The proof in the comic is that it was not the 616 Earth. These characters still exist on Earth 9105 as they were shown to be brought in on a different Avengers story. There is more to that earth than simply being "warped" back. I proved you wrong on several things and yet you still cling to false info as if you think it wins you the argument. You could post a response to this, but you've lost credibility in all this and I don't care enough to respond to you.

Good day.

the only thing you've actually proven is that it was an alternate reality. And you dropped every other point you had as soon as it was answered.

The proof is in the comic, and the comic states she used pre existing characters, and the end of the comic shows she warped everything back to the real characters. Wether the reality continued after that is irrelevant, since the characters involved at the specific time were for all intents and purposes 616 characters. I realize it'd be an issue if Thor turned into a dragon and started to shoot pantsuits out of his mouth, but all that happened was that every character had superficial differences with no discernible power difference in their regular power.

Boo hoo at the mutant part though. Juggernaut has worse feats than that, and his best feat happened when he was thought to be a mutant. Which was your whole point of why it mattered. The character didn't have a static history until like the the late 90's since no one cared farther than his strength and ok durability

Juggernaut still loses badly. Even the severely amped 8th Day Juggernaut would be trashed by Destroyer

Does anyone have scans or info on how strong the destroyer is?

Originally posted by Supra
Does anyone have scans or info on how strong the destroyer is?
its strength was a ways over Thor, and its beam cut Mjolnir in half.
Its hand beams also tore through Hulk like butter

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
its strength was a ways over Thor, and its beam cut Mjolnir in half.
Its hand beams also tore through Hulk like butter

Jeexus! Thats f'ing powerful! What happened to Thor after Mjolnir was cut in half, did he get it back?

Mjolnir was eventually repaired.

The Destroyer also wound up killing Thor with its disintegration beam. And that was a random mortal host animating the suit.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Mjolnir was eventually repaired.

The Destroyer also wound up killing Thor with its disintegration beam. And that was a random mortal host animating the suit.

When Thor died did he go to Valhalla and then Odin brought him back to Asgaurd?

Originally posted by Supra
Jeexus! Thats f'ing powerful! What happened to Thor after Mjolnir was cut in half, did he get it back?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer02.jpg

Thor stayed in that floor for a bit, then got turned intangible, then ran away and found the mortal host of the Destroyer.

Funny, I remembered that being eyebeams... but yeah, it's when he opens his visor that that's when his 'ultimate' power comes out.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer02.jpg

Thor stayed in that floor for a bit, then got turned intangible, then ran away and found the mortal host of the Destroyer.

Funny, I remembered that being eyebeams... but yeah, it's when he opens his visor that that's when his 'ultimate' power comes out.

Damn in the comics the destroyer kicks Thors ass in the movie, Thor kicks the destroyers ass!