But then capt managed to surprise and annoy Loki with his strength which isn't really colossal. Superhuman yes, but not massively so. There were a lot of problems with avengers in that regard. There's no way capt would've been able to take on IM despite his bluster. Loki and Thor are supposedly quite equal despite Thor being able to take on hulk and loki getting thrown about like a rag doll. Lots of inconsistencies.
Originally posted by jaden101Somewhat but not that much imo.
But then capt managed to surprise and annoy Loki with his strength which isn't really colossal. Superhuman yes, but not massively so. There were a lot of problems with avengers in that regard. There's no way capt would've been able to take on IM despite his bluster. Loki and Thor are supposedly quite equal despite Thor being able to take on hulk and loki getting thrown about like a rag doll. Lots of inconsistencies.
Loki pretty much decimated Cap, Cap managed to land one single hit that looked to do anything but Loki was pretty much shown not fazed in the next shot.
Thor is always holding back against Loki. Their fight pretty much mirrored their fight in Thor's movie. They trade blows Loki eventually gets overpowered once Thor decides to end it.
And by the time Hulk decimated Loki, Loki was without his main offensive weapons and had already fought Thor and got blasted by an explosive arrow to the face and dropped quite a distance. I still think Loki should have put up more of a fight against Hulk but the director decided to opt for the comedy option by that moment. It cheapened Loki imo but he was also never meant to be a big bad that could take on the entire team by himself.
Originally posted by Newjak
IM's suit was getting crushed by Thor's bare hands. A headbutt from Thor sent IM flying and put a dent in his armor.
Originally posted by Placidity
How is he a "master" aside from using a staff?And magic won't save you from a thrashing, as we all know.
Loki obviously has strength- treating Cap like he's a kid, durability- surviving the explosion of the rainbow bridge and the fall from Asgard, plus all his Magic.
On top in this he has his staff, which packs a good blast and a good h2h weapon too.
I still think Loki and IM were shown to be in a similar league, but IM has the edge with his flight capabilities.
All of this has no actual merit to the question at hand.
Loki and Ironman, both from Avengers film, against each other.
Loki has the staff which makes him more powerful. There was no 'He was blown up by hawkeye and smashed by hulk before he fought Ironman' this is one on one.
Wether or not Magic actually exists holds no merit to the fact in the Marvel Universe, It Does.
So I would ask that you stop trying to Troll the thread by hacking down certain characters when that doesnt matter.
Hulk beat down Loki. Ironman does not have Hulks Strength.
Hawkeye set off an Explosive in Lokis Face. That was a trick in itself and as far as we know IronMan doesnt have that kind of weaponry.
Captain has increased strength but his shield is his main weapon and can repel energy. Loki does not have this ability.
So once again...
Ironman vs Loki...
Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
All of this has no actual merit to the question at hand.
That's really clever. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Loki and Ironman, both from Avengers film, against each other.
Oh wow, nobody knew that until you told us.
Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Loki has the staff which makes him more powerful. There was no 'He was blown up by hawkeye and smashed by hulk before he fought Ironman' this is one on one.
Quote where I mentioned this fight would be preceded by Loki being beaten by Hawkeye/Hulk?
Your reading comprehension is less than that of a 5th grader.
Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Wether or not Magic actually exists holds no merit to the fact in the Marvel Universe, It Does.
I said "apparently". Again reading comprehension fail. Also, it is actually Thor that says magic and science are the same.
Originally posted by Scarlet FoxSo I would ask that you stop trying to Troll the thread by hacking down certain characters when that doesnt matter.
And I would ask you to shut the **** up and slap yourself in the face until you cry.
Originally posted by Placidity
So are you saying Loki is strong because of his magic?
We have no idea of the true source of his strength? Was he ever amped by Odin? Odin clearly did make some changes to him physically so he wouldn't be recognised as a Frost Giant.
Either way he has strength and durability feats. Pretty impressive ones at that.
Thor is right, magic and science are the same thing.
Definition of science
1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding
2 a : a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study <the science of theology>
b : something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge <have it down to a science>
Originally posted by DARTH POWERI don't think Odin did anything to Loki, as we saw in Thor Loki self transformed to look Asgardian as a baby when Odin touched him.
We have no idea of the true source of his strength? Was he ever amped by Odin? Odin clearly did make some changes to him physically so he wouldn't be recognised as a Frost Giant.Either way he has strength and durability feats. Pretty impressive ones at that.
He isn't the same as a normal Frost Giant.