Loki wins but in regards to the scene.
The visor showed the energy percentage still rising before JARVIS made his claim. Therefore Stark was aware of the power levels reaching 475% but JARVIS was simply bringing the present (at the time) level to his attention.
Case closed.
This is why Quan is arguing this topic in his fashion.
Lets move on for nobody has argued Loki's energy daggers yet and how they will kill Tony.
Originally posted by Lestov16
First off, can Loki even tag an airborne Iron Man? I know he caught Hawkeye's arrow.......but Iron Man is obviously much faster than that. Also, I'm still not convinced that if IM went airborne an unloaded his entire arsenal into Loki, Loki would tank it.
There is no reason to believe Loki would tank bombs that destroyed Chitauri platforms. He would fall down after a barrage but would get back up.
Ironman is known to resort to ground fighting eventually. He's cocky like that. The Thor fight proved it.
Loki with his arsenal from both of his appearances would (I believe) compromise Ironman's armor. And quickly.
After a barrage? Hell no. A single one of Hawkeye's arrows doesn't carry the same yield as IM's entire arsenal.
So you want IM to resort to PIS/CIS because the only way Loki can get a hit in is if IM gets close, which won't happen since he's airborne.
Too bad he can't tag IM to hit him with anything from the arsenal
Originally posted by Lestov16Yes he is quick enough imo to shoot at Tony and hit Tony with his staff blasts after awhile.
First off, can Loki even tag an airborne Iron Man? I know he caught Hawkeye's arrow.......but Iron Man is obviously much faster than that. Also, I'm still not convinced that if IM went airborne an unloaded his entire arsenal into Loki, Loki would tank it.
I don't think an all out barrage from Tony will put down Loki, the same guy who fell through a tear in space and survived.
Also there is a reason Tony goes H2H because he works with a limited arsenal or battery time. If he does an all out barrage and it doesn't work that is pretty much it for him.
Originally posted by Lestov16
After a barrage? Hell no. A single one of Hawkeye's arrows doesn't carry the same yield as IM's entire arsenal.So you want IM to resort to PIS/CIS because the only way Loki can get a hit in is if IM gets close, which won't happen since he's airborne.
Too bad he can't tag IM to hit him with anything from the arsenal
Originally posted by Newjak
Yes he is quick enough imo to shoot at Tony and hit Tony with his staff blasts after awhile.I don't think an all out barrage from Tony will put down Loki, the same guy who fell through a tear in space and survived.
Also there is a reason Tony goes H2H because he works with a limited arsenal or battery time. If he does an all out barrage and it doesn't work that is pretty much it for him.
Done. Thanks.
Ironman WILL resort to the same tactics he gave Thor in Avengers.
Which was mostly ground based. Loki only needs 2 secs at the most to supply the feats I've given early in this thread.
Originally posted by Lestov16Tagging Captain America who was shown in the Avengers to be a good fast and skilled combatant.
What speed feats does he have that show he can tag Tony? Like I said, catching Hawkeye's arrow doesn't cut it.Wasn't Loki afraid of being dropped form the Helicarrier? Even Thor was busting his ass to escape.
Proof?
Plus you make it sound like Tony can dodge anything while airborne.
He get's shot and hit even when airborne.
Loki never really showed fear about being dropped.
Proof? About what Tony have a limited arsenal? That's just logic. Heck Jarvis even mentioned his suit would run out of power before he ever managed to get through a Leviathan's armor.
He doesn't have an infinite supply.
Originally posted by Newjak
Tagging Captain America who was shown in the Avengers to be a good fast and skilled combatant.Plus you make it sound like Tony can dodge anything while airborne.
He get's shot and hit even when airborne.
Loki never really showed fear about being dropped.
Proof? About what Tony have a limited arsenal? That's just logic. Heck Jarvis even mentioned his suit would run out of power before he ever managed to get through a Leviathan's armor.
He doesn't have an infinite supply.
Pretty much what I was going to say. IM isn't no speedster either and has been tagged even while at flight. Plus it's not like Loki is just going to stand there and not move around.
And if IM did want to unleash his full arsenal, then he probably needs to stay put in one place and aim all that stuff which would make him a susceptible target for a dagger. Now I'm not sure if his entire arsenal is enough to take out Loki. Loki did survive the bifrost explosion after all and I don't see IM matching that.
But a single dagger from Loki can, depending on where it hits, seriously injure IM and can even cause death (if hit on the head for example).
Originally posted by FrothByte
But a single dagger from Loki can, depending on where it hits, seriously injure IM and can even cause death (if hit on the head for example).
A thrown dagger anywhere can down Ironman. It cut through Thor like a normal one trough a normal man. And he threw them with extreme accuracy at the beginning of Avengers.
But his energized daggers did so much more from the movie Thor.
If people ignore the feats. It's their problem.
Loki ain't losing this fight.