Iron Man vs. Loki

Movie Marvel characters are pretty inconsistent in regards to their durability when weighed against other threats.

-Ironman in his original film copped a blast from air bombardment and fell to the ground only to rise a little worse for wear. A huge feat considering the man inside should have been shattered. Loki survived an explosive arrow that did nothing more than destroy his ship.

-Ironman hit Loki with a repulsor beam and Loki fell from the force but wasn't harmed.
-In Ironman 3

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He shoots an Extremis soldier in the face and the soldier falls. His healing factor kicked in after a few minutes but it showed the level of damage an Extremis soldier can take.

-Later in that film

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Extremis soldiers were tearing off parts of many Ironman armors with little restraint. Without needing to push their bodies to 3000 degrees like Killian was

-Loki tangled with Thor pretty well in the two films. Even getting slight moments of overpowering feats. Like the Stark Tower fight. Showing he does have the strength (although not as powerful as Thor's in the long run) to tangle with Ironman in a H2H battle.

-Ironman has the advantage of flight and ranged attacks. But a non gimped Loki can create many illusions and throw energized daggers that can kill Frost Giants instantly and has a feat of a dagger that sliced right into Thor himself. Plus Loki has the staff.

In the end Loki has shown to be non-harmed by Repulsor blasts. And strength and skill feats to tangle with Thor.
Has ranged attacks that should be able to compromise Starks armor and illusions to help him achieve such strikes.
He also has mental feats of making his victim feel overwhelmed and aggressive which should work wonders on Stark considering in IM3

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Stark is having massive anxiety attacks.

Loki was gimped in Avengers. He has the tools to defeat Stark whereas Tony doesn't have the tools to kill or KO Loki. Loki was still conscious after Hulk's battering (that Loki simply allowed to happen).

Loki wins this fight. Tony needs more upgrades.

Originally posted by the ninjak
-Ironman hit Loki with a repulsor beam and Loki fell from the force but wasn't harmed.
-In Ironman 3

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He shoots an Extremis soldier in the face and the soldier falls. His healing factor kicked in after a few minutes but it showed the level of damage an Extremis soldier can take.

-Later in that film

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Extremis soldiers were tearing off parts of many Ironman armors with little restraint. Without needing to push their bodies to 3000 degrees like Killian was

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IM's armor is able to take tank rounds and Thor's hammer blows... The armor he was using in IM3 seemed to be noticeably weaker due to the way it assembled. Heck, a semi-truck was able to temporarily destroy one of the suits and the same suit was almost unable to escape from the rubble.

Anyway, as long as IM is using one of his suits from the Avengers he wins this.

Originally posted by ares834

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IM's armor is able to take tank rounds and Thor's hammer blows... The armor he was using in IM3 seemed to be noticeably weaker due to the way it assembled. Heck, a semi-truck was able to temporarily destroy one of the suits and the same suit was almost unable to escape from the rubble.

Anyway, as long as IM is using one of his suits from the Avengers he wins this.

More advanced armors were being used

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during the final battle in IM3. They were being torn apart.

And the suits in the Avengers didn't do anything to hurt Loki. Repulsor blasts just made him fall down due to the force. But he was always fine afterwards.

Tony can't hurt Loki in the long run whilst Loki has the tools to hurt Ironman.

Loki wins this.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Tony can't hurt Loki in the long run whilst Loki has the tools to hurt Ironman.

Nope:

PIS. He just needed to aim a little higher or lower...or to the right or left.

You get my drift.

Loki had so much knowledge on the Avengers beforehand but didn't know that the glowing sphere of energy in Stark's chest wasn't a biological part of his body?
Cmon!

Originally posted by the ninjak
PIS. He just needed to aim a little higher or lower...or to the right or left.

You get my drift.

Loki had so much knowledge on the Avengers beforehand but didn't know that the glowing sphere of energy in Stark's chest wasn't a biological part of his body?
Cmon!

Cos Loki's half a retard and that's the good half. He couldn't even fully control a Swedish scientist. Swedish, dude.

Originally posted by ares834

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. Heck, a semi-truck was able to temporarily destroy one of the suits and the same suit was almost unable to escape from the rubble.

I got the impression that the suits need someone inside to hold together in a more stable fashion.

When the truck hit the Mark 42, it wasn't destroyed, just disassembled. After all didn't the same suit tank missile exlposions in at Stark's mansion eariler?

Why are you queers discussing the suits in IM3? It's the ones he had in Avengers.

Because I got the hots for the Mark 42. I fight back when my ***** is dissed!

All we need to know is that IM's armor can take a thrashing from Thor and Loki's just not powerful enough to do much to it.

Originally posted by Robtard
All we need to know is that IM's armor can take a thrashing from Thor and Loki's just not powerful enough to do much to it.

Originally posted by Newjak
You mean the suit Thor was crushing with his bare hands?

Yeah, that suit exactly. The one that took a pounding from Thor and was still doing a good job at beating Thor back, despite Thor's obvious superiority.

Loki's not doing shit to it, he's not strong or powerful enough.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, that suit exactly. The one that took a pounding from Thor and was still doing a good job at beating Thor back, despite Thor's obvious superiority.

Loki's not doing shit to it, he's not strong or powerful enough.

As for Loki not doing shit, he had weapons that could pierce Asgardian armor. The same armor that IM blasted a few times and did nothing to.

I'm betting a few knives to the head would take IM out pretty easily.

And the Alien weapons were able to knock IM down and damage him some, Loki's spear was more powerful.

Ok let's list a few facts here. Both IM and Loki have fought Thor (and as a rule Thor always holds back so let's not assume Thor was holding back against Loki but not against IM).

Basing from their fights, we can conclude that:

1. Loki is stronger, simply because IM needed a 400% power charge to even match up to Thor whereas Loki just took him head on. Loki also managed to actually hurt Thor. Nothing serious, but still hurt him. All IM was able to do (even at 400%) was irritate Thor.

2. Loki is a better h2h fighter, simply because he was able to get the upperhand on Thor a couple of times without the need to use his magic or ranged attacks. Thor effortlessly dodged a lot of IM's h2h attacks, and IM had to resort to using his weaponry and flight/thrusters in order to properly land hits on Thor. Loki was also able to block and dodge hits from Thor, but Thor was able to land every hit he threw on IM.

3. Loki is more durable than IM's armor. IM got a dent when Thor headbutted him. Loki got elbowed in the face by Thor and was hit by Mjolnir in the chest and didn't even get a bloody nose. Thor's lightning also damaged IM's suit. Same lightning stuns Loki but again no lasting damage.

The only advantage that IM has here is his flight and maneuverability. Strength, skill, durability are all in favor of Loki. Maybe even firepower. IM has more options in weaponry but Loki might have more raw firepower, again basing on the fact that his weapons actually hurt Thor.

Loki's fight against Hulk is a bad example to use in this because a.) IM is not Hulk and b.) Loki wasn't even fighting Hulk. It was a cheap shot. Granted, it was Loki's fault for not paying attention, but it still was a cheap shot and not a proper fight between the two of them.

Loki's fight against Captain America also is a bad example to use here because a.) IM never fought Cap and thus we have no comparison and b.) Loki completely dominated Cap. Cap got in 3 hits which didn't even knock Loki back. Considering that Cap is considered one of the better h2h fighters, it just shows that Loki has some decent h2h skills considering he was able to keep up.

So unless IM gets another 400% charge, I don't see him winning this.

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm pretty sure that scene showed how easily Thor could beat Ironman if he wanted to. If Thor can crush IM's suit with his bare hands and dent it with a head-butt, I'm assuming one of his higher powered hammer attacks would obliterate IM.

As for Loki not doing shit, he had weapons that could pierce Asgardian armor. The same armor that IM blasted a few times and did nothing to.

I'm betting a few knives to the head would take IM out pretty easily.

And the Alien weapons were able to knock IM down and damage him some, Loki's spear was more powerful.

I'm pretty sure that scene also showed hot powerful and durable the IM suit is. It was Thor after all.

He had a little dagger that went in a couple inches. Tony must be shaking.

Nope.

Loki's spear didn't do anything that shows us it would take out Iron Man. He'd have a hard time hitting in the first place with IM flying around and blasting his ass around like a ragdoll.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm pretty sure that scene also showed hot powerful and durable the IM suit is. It was Thor after all.

He had a little dagger that went in a couple inches. Tony must be shaking.

Nope.

Loki's spear didn't do anything that shows us it would take out Iron Man. He'd have a hard time hitting in the first place with IM flying around and blasting his ass around like a ragdoll.

A couple of inches while going through two things that are more durable than IM. I imagine if Loki can put a dagger that far into Thor it will go even further into IM. Even if it didn't a few inches into the head or neck would put down a human being.

The spear was able to blast part of a building off, destroy a jet, and blast a helicopter out of the sky. I'm thinking it could do some damage to IM.

I'm not saying it would be an easy fight for Loki but I do think Loki has the means and abilities to put IM down.

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor was holding back against both Loki and IM but IM was still more damaged after his fight than Loki was.

A couple of inches while going through two things that are more durable than IM. I imagine if Loki can put a dagger that far into Thor it will go even further into IM. Even if it didn't a few inches into the head or neck would put down a human being.

The spear was able to blast part of a building off, destroy a jet, and blast a helicopter out of the sky. I'm thinking it could do some damage to IM.

I'm not saying it would be an easy fight for Loki but I do think Loki has the means and abilities to put IM down.

Because Loki bailed like a little pansy the second Thor grabbed him. He's a coward, Tony isn't.

Speculation. He'd also have to hit first with it. Likely not going to happen.

IM takes a tank shelling and then crashes into the ground from high altitude and suffers little more than some paint damage.

Nah, he's too much of a puff relying on parlor tricks; this is a fight. He loses.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because Loki bailed like a little pansy the second Thor grabbed him. He's a coward, Tony isn't.

Speculation. He'd also have to hit first with it. Likely not going to happen.

IM takes a tank shelling and then crashes into the ground from high altitude and suffers little more than some paint damage.

Nah, he's too much of a puff relying on parlor tricks; this is a fight. He loses.

Considering Loki's skill he could hit IM just fine imo.

And so Loki survived the Bi-Frost explosion without a problem.

Loki took Thor's lightning without getting KOed. Even though IM absorbed Thor's attack anywhere Thor's lightning touched IM's armor was damaged.

The direct comparisons between the fights with Thor don't favor Tony. They show Loki as tougher and with better firepower considering Tony couldn't hurt Thor at all only annoy him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because Loki bailed like a little pansy the second Thor grabbed him. He's a coward, Tony isn't.

Speculation. He'd also have to hit first with it. Likely not going to happen.

IM takes a tank shelling and then crashes into the ground from high altitude and suffers little more than some paint damage.

Nah, he's too much of a puff relying on parlor tricks; this is a fight. He loses.

IM hits Thor with his repulsors. No damage to Thor. Loki stabs Thor with his knife. Thor gets a painful wound. Loki's daggers >> IM's repulsors.

Thor hits Loki with lightning, Loki is stunned but not damaged. Thor hits IM with lightning, IM suit is damaged (though he does get a power up). Still, Loki durability > IM durability.

Loki goes toe to toe with Thor and even gets to hurt him. IM needs a 475% power charge to go toe to toe with Thor and can't seem to properly hurt him. Loki strength > IM strength.

IM has flight and mobility as his advantages. Loki as strength, durability, and fighting skill as his advantages.

I think Loki seems physically tougher and is probably more powerful with his Spear BUT if IM can disarm Loki off his spear with a powerful enough blast, then IM can probably take Loki from that point.

Remember IM disarmed Thor off Mjolnir a couple of times (once before the power boost) but unlike Mjolnir I don't think Loki's spear comes back to him at will.

This assuming IM keeps his distance and plays it smart. He'll get killed hand to hand.