Voldemort vs. Sauron

Started by quanchi11230 pages

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Well, I made a thread but I guess you can't attend because of your self-professed ignorance.

Concession accepted.

This is the movie versus section. You have conceded this thread. I only debate in threads I am knowledgeable in this proving I am as objective as it gets. You however admit you want to change this thread because you're pouting because Sauron loses. That means you're biased.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Movies only. This has nothing to do with that book whose rights still belong to the Tolkien family.

Its not a good matchup pitting a character with a total 30 sec screen time vs voldemort, who has alot more.

I'm just saying, Voldmort is powerful but he is still just a mortal wizard

And btw, Voldemort's hocruxes only mean he will be re-born if he dies. Sauron cannot die unless the ring is thrown in the vulcano.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Its not a good matchup pitting a character with a total 30 sec screen time vs voldemort, who has alot more.

I'm just saying, Voldmort is powerful but he is still just a mortal wizard

And btw, Voldemort's hocruxes only mean he will be re-born if he dies. Sauron [B]cannot die unless the ring is thrown in the vulcano. [/B]

He had more than thirty seconds of screen time in the first movie let alone in Desolation.

No, he isn't. He became immortal due to the Horcruxes. Sauron's body dies as well. Voldemort was not truly killed either and actually achieved a body again unlike fail boy Sauron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the movie versus section. You have conceded this thread. I only debate in threads I am knowledgeable in this proving I am as objective as it gets. You however admit you want to change this thread because you're pouting because Sauron loses. That means you're biased.

How have I conceded? You never showed how AK could kill Sauron. I simply commented on your bibliophobia and shocking ignorance in terms of proper canon. You are very quick to go "OMG NO BOOK FEATS" not because you respect the rules, but because they fill in the blanks and allow for a more decisive argument in the stomp that is Sauron v Voldemort.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
How have I conceded? You never showed how AK could kill Sauron. I simply commented on your bibliophobia and shocking ignorance in terms of proper canon. You are very quick to go "OMG NO BOOK FEATS" not because you respect the rules, but because they fill in the blanks and allow for a more decisive argument in the stomp that is Sauron v Voldemort.
Ak kills those with bodies. Sauron's body dies quite easily. Point proven.

Voldemort can fly, teleport, create fifty foot fire snakes, move his wand and cut things, shoot giant fireballs, emit powerful energy blasts, emit dark matter energy, use tk use the Crucio spell whereas Sauron can walk use tk and swing his mace.

Who the hell do you think wins ?

Don't be so simple.

So AK kills anything with a body? Like, statues? Bodies of water? Maiar? Where is the proof of this?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He had more than thirty seconds of screen time in the first movie let alone in Desolation.

No, he isn't. He became immortal due to the Horcruxes. Sauron's body dies as well. Voldemort was not truly killed either and actually achieved a body again unlike fail boy Sauron.

In Desolation Sauron doesn't have a body. This is body Sauron vs. body Voldemort.

Body of Sauron has a whopping 1 movie feat. pointless thread

Originally posted by Firefly218
In Desolation Sauron doesn't have a body. This is body Sauron vs. body Voldemort.

Body of Sauron has a whopping [B]1 movie feat. pointless thread [/B]

He still has those powers. Are you suggesting he doesn't possess those powers with a body ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He still has those powers. Are you suggesting he doesn't possess those powers with a body ?

The body has not shown those feats. Therefore, according to your logic, it doesn't possess those powers.

What am I missing here?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
So AK kills anything with a body? Like, statues? Bodies of water? Maiar? Where is the proof of this?
Did I compare this body to inanimate objects ? I said bodies which can be killed. Can bodies of water be killed ? Are they capable of conscious thought ?

Are you capable of conscious thought ?

Originally posted by Firefly218
The body has not shown those feats. Therefore, according to your logic, it doesn't possess those powers.

What am I missing here?

Why wouldn't he possess these powers with his body ? He just didn't demonstrate them on the battlefield.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why wouldn't he possess these powers with his body ? He just didn't demonstrate them on the battlefield.

Regardless, movie Sauron doesn't have enough movie feats to warrant a versus thread.

If this wasnt a movie feat battle, Sauron would absolutely demolish Voldemort.

Saying Voldemort would beat Sauron is like saying Spiderman would beat Thanos. Definitely wouldn't happen, but spidey has more movie feats.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Regardless, movie Sauron doesn't have enough movie feats to warrant a versus thread.

If this wasnt a movie feat battle, Sauron would absolutely demolish Voldemort.

Saying Voldemort would beat Sauron is like saying Spiderman would beat Thanos. Definitely wouldn't happen, but spidey has more movie feats.

It wasn't me who tried taking away his Desolation feats.

It is a movie versus battle. Quit crying about it. Sauron has died in battle to less than Pottermagic so acting like that's a fair comparison is well, stupid.

Voldemort wins. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
It wasn't me who tried taking away his Desolation feats.

It is a movie versus battle. Quit crying about it. Sauron has died in battle to less than Pottermagic so acting like that's a fair comparison is well, stupid.

Voldemort wins. 😂

I honestly dont give a shit anymore.

Originally posted by Firefly218
I honestly dont give a shit anymore.
Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Concession granted

Originally posted by Firefly218
Concession granted
I ripped it out of your feminine chest.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Not humorous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I didn't make anything up. Sauron died with the chance to come back. Once the ring was destroyed he could not recover his dead body to life.

Ak kills. Sauron can be killed therefore Sauron dies.

Your claim is he resists it. Show me him resisting anything. The guy can't even resist a half broken sword.

😂

He didn't last more than 1 minute once he engaged his foes in battle.

Sure you did.

No limit fallacy still in regards to AK 🙂

Incorrect, you claimed AK woould "kill Sauron", I'm asking you to post prove, which you've been unable to do for 13 pages now 🙂 Show proof or STFU and think of something else.

You should really learn what 'burden of proof' entails when you make these baseless assertions, since you do it all the time 🙂