Voldemort vs. Sauron

Originally posted by quanchi112
Still took time to break through Gandalf's shields.

Voldemort's feat is far more impressive.

Sauron delayed his attacks and was not killed. I just argue based off facts unlike yourself.

No they cannot. You're silly.

Well that just says more about Gandalf then. Plus Sauron did vaporise Gandalf's staff effortlessly just by the heat radiating from him. What stops him from vaporising Voldy-chan's wand the same way?

No it isn't. At best his attack'd equate to the small building level DC. Still not comparable to Sauron. Try harder. You're a terrible downplayer

Yes they can

Originally posted by quanchi112
Earlier in the thread. Dimentia already.

Prove it by way of quotes Quan. I think you have your threads mixed up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ak kills immortals as well. Prove it won't work on an immortal since we've already seen it and that is your claim. A sword worked on an immortal. 😆

No it doesn't, and it never demonstrated to do so. Prove that it does. the onus doesn't go to me proving a negative.

A sword that has demonstratably work in the insubstantial Dead of Dunharrow, thus is obviously magical in nature. Despite all your claims to it being an ordinary sword.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort would clearly sense power emanating from the ring. It is rather obvious plus he can read minds, hillbilly.

Yeah, and reading the mind of sauron has always been healthy, just ask Saruman. Plus, that is a gigantic piece of speculation on your part.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you have any idea what you are talking about ?

A lot more than you have demonstrated obviously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Crucio is effective and Sauron has no defense.

Besides magic, and the fact that he is essentially a spirit with no pain receptors to torture with it.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Well that just says more about Gandalf then. Plus Sauron did vaporise Gandalf's staff effortlessly just by the heat radiating from him. What stops him from vaporising Voldy-chan's wand the same way?

No it isn't. At best his attack'd equate to the small building level DC. Still not comparable to Sauron. Try harder. You're a terrible downplayer

Yes they can

Voldemort blasting his body. Did Sauron have a body in that scene ? Does Gandalf have Voldemort's abilities ? Do you have a functioning brain ?

You're silly like a child.

Cause "vaporize" weak ass Staff is such a huge feat, I would be ashamed of Sauron if he could not "vaporize" the guys weak staff, the guy can't even help his friends, he's a hopeless.

After Balrog kicked his ass he lost all credibility as a wizard and now does Saurons bidding. Gandalf is the reason we are all in the mess we are in because he can't take no as answer.

Gandalf is a fool.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Prove it by way of quotes Quan. I think you have your threads mixed up.

No it doesn't, and it never demonstrated to do so. Prove that it does. the onus doesn't go to me proving a negative.

A sword that has demonstratably work in the insubstantial Dead of Dunharrow, thus is obviously magical in nature. Despite all your claims to it being an ordinary sword.

Yeah, and reading the mind of sauron has always been healthy, just ask Saruman. Plus, that is a gigantic piece of speculation on your part.

A lot more than you have demonstrated obviously.

Besides magic, and the fact that he is essentially a spirit with no pain receptors to torture with it.

Yes, it did. On screen. You clearly haven't seen the movies since that is a theme from the first one and on.

The King is the reason the sword worked there not the sword. 😆

Voldemort isn't Saruman. Voldemort has different abilities, feats, and mind reading abilities. Saruman was a weak fool. Reads his mind there goes the ring.

You make things up like invincibility.

In this thread he has a body.

Read the opening post, sport.

Sauron and EASILY ... very EASILY

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit being a sore loser.

Quit being a dumbass.

Also, since you think Sauron can beat Smaug - do you also think Voldemort can beat Smaug? 😂

Originally posted by Firefly218
Quit being a dumbass.

Also, since you think Sauron can beat Smaug - do you also think Voldemort can beat Smaug? 😂

AK would kill Smaug.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sauron and EASILY ... very EASILY

Originally posted by Firefly218
Quit being a dumbass.

Also, since you think Sauron can beat Smaug - do you also think Voldemort can beat Smaug? 😂

Voldemort would annihilate Smaug.

Originally posted by Supra
AK would kill Smaug.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Definitely.

You have very unique opinions 😆

Originally posted by Firefly218
You have very unique opinions 😆

Very correct opinions ✅

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Very correct opinions ✅

❌

🙁

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't care to, nerd.

That's because you're talking bullshit again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it did. On screen. You clearly haven't seen the movies since that is a theme from the first one and on.

If it happened onscreen, then you would have provided the evidence to prove it. Your word doesn't mean shit in a debate

Originally posted by quanchi112
The King is the reason the sword worked there not the sword. 😆

And yet Elrond explained that the sword is required to make the Dead of Dunharrow work. Without it, Aragorn would have been killed. Are you done making excuses?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort isn't Saruman. Voldemort has different abilities, feats, and mind reading abilities. Saruman was a weak fool. Reads his mind there goes the ring.

It doesn't matter. Sauron has demonstrated better mental manipulation than Voldemort has ever been exposed to. You think Voldy is getting inside his head? HAH!

Originally posted by quanchi112
You make things up like invincibility.

In this thread he has a body.

Read the opening post, sport.

You don't seem to understand anything, basically put, the combination of factors above, like Narsil being the sole weapon that proved capable of removing the ring from Sauron's hand, whereas everything else, including Elven weapons proved useless. Making it up would require no reasonable or logical basis, but the battle of the Last Alliance, thousands upon thousands of troops there, and you believe common weapons would have harmed Sauron, yet they did not.

Irrespective of a body or not, Sauron's powers are there, and they are undisputed. Even when bodiless, he could still whip Voldy's ass.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
That's because you're talking bullshit again.

If it happened onscreen, then you would have provided the evidence to prove it. Your word doesn't mean shit in a debate

And yet Elrond explained that the sword is required to make the Dead of Dunharrow work. Without it, Aragorn would have been killed. Are you done making excuses?

It doesn't matter. Sauron has demonstrated better mental manipulation than Voldemort has ever been exposed to. You think Voldy is getting inside his head? HAH!

You don't seem to understand anything, basically put, the combination of factors above, like Narsil being the sole weapon that proved capable of removing the ring from Sauron's hand, whereas everything else, including Elven weapons proved useless. Making it up would require no reasonable or logical basis, but the battle of the Last Alliance, thousands upon thousands of troops there, and you believe common weapons would have harmed Sauron, yet they did not.

Irrespective of a body or not, Sauron's powers are there, and they are undisputed. Even when bodiless, he could still whip Voldy's ass.

Its clear event which has been referenced since the beginning. Your ignorance is astounding.

The connection to the event. The sword isn't some über powerful sword. Its relevance is it defeatEd Sauron. That's all. Try to understand and comprehend what you watch for a change.

So abilities don't matter ? You're a troll. Silliest thing I've ever heard. No, he hasn't. Who has Sauron manipulated mentally ? Yes, Voldemort is getting inside his head. It is an ability Potter wizards have and Voldemort excels at it.

Nardil was the only weapon which made contact. Even broken it cut his fingers off easily. No resistance feats of any such kind. Sauron only overwhelmed Gandalf the Grey which Saruman has defeated as well. Nothing extraordinary.

Voldemort kills him quicker than the thirty seconds of screen time he had.

😂

Premature ejaculated all over the battlefield. Thats your champion. No surprise there.

Originally posted by Firefly218
You have very unique opinions 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the sensitive pouter.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its clear event which has been referenced since the beginning. Your ignorance is astounding.

Irrelevant. Prove up or shut up. You seem incapable of doing so, so again, concession accepted/

Originally posted by quanchi112
The connection to the event. The sword isn't some über powerful sword. Its relevance is it defeatEd Sauron. That's all. Try to understand and comprehend what you watch for a change.

Assumption of the highest order. The sword wasn't even Isildur's when the curse was made.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So abilities don't matter ? You're a troll. Silliest thing I've ever heard. No, he hasn't. Who has Sauron manipulated mentally ? Yes, Voldemort is getting inside his head. It is an ability Potter wizards have and Voldemort excels at it.

Anyone who ever got exposed to the ring, Saruman, the near limitless legions of Orcs, Southrons, Easterlings, Black Numenoroeans... Far more power in his mind than Voldy ever espoused.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nardil was the only weapon which made contact. Even broken it cut his fingers off easily. No resistance feats of any such kind. Sauron only overwhelmed Gandalf the Grey which Saruman has defeated as well. Nothing extraordinary.

It's spelled "Narsil".

You have no POSSIBLE critical thinking skills if you believe a 10 foot walking apocalypse never so much as got scored by a thousands strong hoard trying to kill him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort kills him quicker than the thirty seconds of screen time he had.

😂

Prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Premature ejaculated all over the battlefield. Thats your champion. No surprise there.

What? Are you going off on another wild tangent? Stay on topic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My opinions are supported by evidence unlike zero's baseless claims.

So says the evidence free Quan... 🙄