Voldemort vs. Sauron

I like how he equates Saruman's defeat of Gandalf with Sauron's. Even though Saruman got tagged quite a few times and was utterly afraid of Sauron, searching for the Ring to augment his power or bargain his way into a lieutenant's role. Sauron's stomp over Gandalf sans body is just ridiculosu, and Zero is right on three counts:

- Sauron is unharmed in the battle. No melee weapon except for Narsil so much as pierces his skin or armor.

- Narsil is a blatantly magical blade and can kill undead among other things. Similarly made weapons such as Glandring and Sting have insane piercing/cutting powers and are considered priceless artifacts by elves, not mere mook weaponry.

- Sauron makes it a point to mentally dominate his opponents and break them. Ignoring the oceans of book evidence (for fear of Quan chirping "no book feats"😉; Sauron basically dominates Saruman, his legions, the Nine utterly, all of those who wield the Rings of Power save for the First Age elves, Pippin, Denethor, and so on. This is not insignificant; Sauron has, even without the Ring, powerful sorcery and mental powers. With it, he can stomp even harder.

Sauron likely wouldn't kill Voldemort, he'd turn him into a powerful minion, which suits Voldemort.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Concession accepted.

Irrelevant. Prove up or shut up. You seem incapable of doing so, so again, concession accepted/

Assumption of the highest order. The sword wasn't even Isildur's when the curse was made.

Anyone who ever got exposed to the ring, Saruman, the near limitless legions of Orcs, Southrons, Easterlings, Black Numenoroeans... Far more power in his mind than Voldy ever espoused.

It's spelled "Narsil".

You have no POSSIBLE critical thinking skills if you believe a 10 foot walking apocalypse never so much as got scored by a thousands strong hoard trying to kill him.

Prove it.

What? Are you going off on another wild tangent? Stay on topic.

Killing an immortals body has been done in Harry Potter. You're dense.

You claiming the sword is powerful when all other evidence says otherwise. It was just sharp enough to cut Sauron's fingers is all. We didn't see Sauron resist anything so you're the one making assumptions without the proof. A sword Sauron broke in half with his bootheel was still sharp enough to sever his fingers thus separating him from the ring and killing his body.

You have to wear the ring and over time it wears you down. It isn't the same thing as Sauron going into your mind in the heat of battle. It's like the Horcrux wearing you down as well. Voldemort can actively read your thoughts while in his body it isn't the object doing so over time while you wear it. You're really dense.

I have spell Narsil correctly before you nerd. That was an autocorrect. We don't see thousands attack him. We see everything and you're making assumptions without proof and ignoring the evidence of what did cut him. You're dense.

Ak. Proven.

No, I said the guy died within a minute of engaging his foes. Thats premature ejaculation.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I like how he equates Saruman's defeat of Gandalf with Sauron's. Even though Saruman got tagged quite a few times and was utterly afraid of Sauron, searching for the Ring to augment his power or bargain his way into a lieutenant's role. Sauron's stomp over Gandalf sans body is just ridiculosu, and Zero is right on three counts:

- Sauron is unharmed in the battle. No melee weapon except for Narsil so much as pierces his skin or armor.

- Narsil is a blatantly magical blade and can kill undead among other things. Similarly made weapons such as Glandring and Sting have insane piercing/cutting powers and are considered priceless artifacts by elves, not mere mook weaponry.

- Sauron makes it a point to mentally dominate his opponents and break them. Ignoring the oceans of book evidence (for fear of Quan chirping "no book feats"😉; Sauron basically dominates Saruman, his legions, the Nine utterly, all of those who wield the Rings of Power save for the First Age elves, Pippin, Denethor, and so on. This is not insignificant; Sauron has, even without the Ring, powerful sorcery and mental powers. With it, he can stomp even harder.

Sauron is unharmed in battle due to no one making contact with his body due to the strength and power of his mace in combination with the ring. The one sword we see strike him kills him. It isn't up for debate. Evidence. Cheerlead all you want because unlike you I have evidence and you have nothing save pouting and gnashing of teeth.

Narsil was broken by Sauron's bootheel but that doesn't mean it isn't sharp enough to cut into Sauron. Sauron doesn't show resistance to any other weapons striking him prior to that scene. Facts. 🙂

This is a movies versus section of the board which means book feats don't count. You're a man child who created another thread purposely to bait me because you're emotionally compromised and upset. Cry elsewhere. This is Peter Jackson's version not J.R.R. Tolkien's. Jackson can take whatever creative liberties he wanted to so it is that version alone.

🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Sauron likely wouldn't kill Voldemort, he'd turn him into a powerful minion, which suits Voldemort.

Is quan still going on and on here.. and saying no book feats in play still? Can somebody remind me why book feats don't count?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Is quan still going on and on here.. and saying no book feats in play still? Can somebody remind me why book feats don't count?

The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!

Then how do we use comic book feats for characters if it's movies only? It the comic book forum it's actually the opposite.. comic book canon is greater weight than movies

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Then how do we use comic book feats for characters if it's movies only? It the comic book forum it's actually the opposite.. comic book canon is greater weight than movies

In the comic versus forum it is comic book characters only. Here it is movie characters only. Are you catching on ?

Show me where in the rules does it say you can't use books for charaters in movies and use that material in a debate

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Show me where in the rules does it say you can't use books for charaters in movies and use that material in a debate

Only Movie feats.

Book feats aren't movie feats, child.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not true at all. Voldemort has to be the driving force and would undoubtedly kill Sauron off.

It's absolutely true. You're just making stuff up again cos Voldemort is your favorite.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's absolutely true. You're just making stuff up again cos Voldemort is your favorite.

Voldemort absolutely rage stomps Sauron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort took orders from no one and was out for himself. That is a fact. He wouldn't even receive help from Bellatrix.

Voldemort absolutely rage stomps Sauron.

If not taking orders ang giving orders is the new measuring tool here, then Sauron didn't take orders and commanded thousands, so Sauron shitstomps Voldemort by your own silly rules 🙂

You lost again.

Originally posted by Robtard
If not taking orders ang giving orders is the new measuring tool here, then Sauron didn't take orders and commanded thousands, so Sauron shitstomps Voldemort by your own silly rules 🙂

You lost again.

Voldemort unlike Sauron was competent. 🙂

You act like Voldemort could resist Sauron's power. Voldemort ends up as a powerful minion to the dark lord, the best you can pray for here.

Voldemort was so competent he didn't know his wand wasn't actually his and got his ass handed to him by a student boywizard 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
You act like Voldemort could resist Sauron's power. Voldemort ends up as a powerful minion to the dark lord, the best you can pray for here.

Voldemort was so competent he didn't know his wand wasn't actually his and got his ass handed to him by a student boywizard 🙂

Voldemort made his own corrupting artifacts. The ring over time might corrupt but that has nothing to do with a versus fight. Voldemort wouldn't put on the weak ring IMO.

Voldemort isn't all knowing. Sauron was so competent he never regained his body or conquered anything.

😂

How is this even a fight. Spite on Sauron, he has no feats other then a mace wielding battle which he got wrecked in by some delusional king.

Originally posted by Supra
How is this even a fight. Spite on Sauron, he has no feats other then a mace wielding battle which he got wrecked in by some delusional king.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And to make matters worse he pre ejaculated all over the battlefield.

Sauron never won a fight unless your talking about Sauron kicking Gandalfs ass to next Sunday.