The Runner with a Primary Adamantium Katana runs the gauntlet...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hurting Surtur is one thing.

Actually defeating him, which has on two occasions caused Odin to either die or come very close to it, is something else entirely.

Very true, but I'll ask again: how does Surtur win here?

I can vividly see the Runner slicing Surtur and running....slicing Surtur and running...while never getting hit in the process.

Loki (who is much slower than the Runner) was successfully hitting and running against Surtur until he got tired (Loki did have his illusions distracting Surtur as well though); the Runner (having the Power Primordial to draw upon) surely has greater stamina than Loki, so should be able to hit and run against Surtur for a long, long, time...

Maybe even long enough to beat him...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Very true, but I'll ask again: how does Surtur win here?

I can vividly see the Runner slicing Surtur and running....slicing Surtur and running...while never getting hit in the process.

Loki (who is much slower than the Runner) was successfully hitting and running against Surtur until he got tired (Loki did have his illusions distracting Surtur as well though); the Runner (having the Power Primordial to draw upon) surely has greater stamina than Loki, so should be able to hit and run against Surtur for a long, long, time...

Maybe even long enough to beat him...

he's never displayed the strength feats to show that he can go toe to toe with surtur...or even hurt him significantly

Originally posted by Sin I AM
he's never displayed the strength feats to show that he can go toe to toe with surtur...or even hurt him significantly

??

The Runner easily overpowered someone (the Silver Surfer) who's been shown to be a peer to Thor on several occasions; if Thor and Loki's power is enough to harm Surtur, then the Runner can definitely do it...

And besides, the last thing the Runner will do is fight Surtur toe to toe; he'll slice Surtur and run until he drops...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Very true, but I'll ask again: how does Surtur win here?

I can vividly see the Runner slicing Surtur and running....slicing Surtur and running...while never getting hit in the process.

Loki (who is much slower than the Runner) was successfully hitting and running against Surtur until he got tired (Loki did have his illusions distracting Surtur as well though); the Runner (having the Power Primordial to draw upon) surely has greater stamina than Loki, so should be able to hit and run against Surtur for a long, long, time...

Maybe even long enough to beat him...

Considering Surtur can destroy galaxies even without Twilight, I don't think Runner will be impossible for him to hit. Surtur is also an ancient elemental force that predates Asgardians, so, by all rights, his stamina should be high end in his own right.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
??

The Runner easily overpowered someone (the Silver Surfer) who's been shown to be a peer to Thor on several occasions; if Thor and Loki's power is enough to harm Surtur, then the Runner can definitely do it...

And besides, the last thing the Runner will do is fight Surtur toe to toe; he'll slice Surtur and run until he drops...

i havent seen the entirety of that fight just scans, there is probably context t go along with it to explain it...otherwise it would seem to be pis to me especially knowing what he has done to odin and what he means to asgard. plus your taking wayyyy to much stock in the surfer battle....thanos has over-powered him as well, and quite easily

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering Surtur can destroy galaxies even without Twilight, I don't think Runner will be impossible for him to hit. Surtur is also an ancient elemental force that predates Asgardians, so, by all rights, his stamina should be high end in his own right.

1) That galaxy destroying feat wasnt even on panel; he's definitely never shown that kind of power during combat...

2) Yes, Surtur has tremendous stamina, but that doesnt equate to speed, and since Loki was successfully hitting and running against Surtur (until he got tired) the Runner should be able to do so far, far, easier and longer than Loki could....and the Runner has a Primary Adamantium Katana here.

Add that up, and Surtur is in trouble in this matchup...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
i havent seen the entirety of that fight just scans, there is probably context t go along with it to explain it...otherwise it would seem to be pis to me especially knowing what he has done to odin and what he means to asgard. plus your taking wayyyy to much stock in the surfer battle....thanos has over-powered him as well, and quite easily

Check it out; there were no extenuating circumstances to those fights...

Thor and Loki were both portrayed as very powerful however, but they had no amps or anything of that nature...

In addition, Surtur was actually growing stronger and stronger as he neared the Eternal Flame (which was located in Asgard); Twilight linked Surtur to the Flame so he could constantly replenish his strength during that arc...thats one of the reasons he was able to defeat Odin (the other was because of the power of the Casket of Ancient Winters which Surtur was able to draw upon via Twilight).

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering Surtur can destroy galaxies even without Twilight, I don't think Runner will be impossible for him to hit. Surtur is also an ancient elemental force that predates Asgardians, so, by all rights, his stamina should be high end in his own right.

The most we've ever seen that I can recall is that he destroyed a galactic core.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
How does Morg beat him? Whats to stop the Runner from beheading him in the 1st second of the fight?

Also I find it funny that people believe that Thor or Loki hurting Surtur isn't PIS, yet Runner (a Trans Tier being) being able to AT LEAST harm Surtur is out of the question?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I will now present you with a pic of Thor harming a Twilight weilding Surtur under his own power; why cant the Runner (who is beyond Thor) equal or exceed the following?

Originally posted by Galan007
Because an adamantium katana=/=Mjolnir. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
Because an adamantium katana=/=Mjolnir. srsly

This, too.

Originally posted by zopzop
An adamantium katana wielded by a Trans Tier being capable of FTL battle speed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool. It's still not equal to a Skyfather-enchanted magical item. 👆

Originally posted by zopzop
And how does that explain Loki harming Surtur? FAIL.

Fail? Nah, brah.

Originally posted by zopzop
And how does that explain Loki harming Surtur? FAIL.

Originally posted by Galan007
Because an adamantium katana=/=Mjolnir. srsly

Pretty sure Loki's energy projection and sorcery is by default significantly more powerful than an unbreakable sword.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nice dodge. 👆

He's a herald level being and he has NO skyfather level artifact.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pretty sure Loki's energy projection and sorcery is by default significantly more powerful than an unbreakable sword.

You biches dun just got zopped.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You biches dun just got zopped.