Star Trek reboot vs. Star Trek original

Started by quanchi11223 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
How sad, he's been chased out of the Comic Vs and is doing poorly in the AVF here; the MVF is his last refuge.

IMO, he needs a new hobby, posting hundreds of thousands of posts across multiple boards only to get banned seems silly.

I can return to the comic versus and have posted more tha you can dream of. Your brain would probably stop cold if you posted 75 times in a single day. Just relax and argue the thread topic, Robbie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you explain the obvious while pretending I don't know it. It's tired and old. Waiting for you to say Anakin was Luke's father and claiming you had to tell me that.

Yes, it is hence the futuristic ship Nero had being in the current one. Spock and red matter is in reboot film not original shitbag movies. Counts for reboot since its in the reboot film. Think.

Yes, red matter is superior to anything in the originals. Stops a super nova the future tech can't account for otherwise.

Clearly you knew all a long and didn't say:

"but everything changed in the regular timeline" -Quanchi

"False. Narada ship takes on futuristic ships"- Quanchi

Regular time-line is unchanged; the Narada never fought futuristic ships 🙂

The red matter is FROM the future alt time-line, as is old Spock; that's the link between the two, why can't you grasp this.

Repeat: The alt time-line is still about a century behind. Inferior transporters, no holodeck, no replicators, one ship that can fight while at warp etc. <--- keep dodging all of this, it's telling 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can return to the comic versus and have posted more tha you can dream of. Your brain would probably stop cold if you posted 75 times in a single day. Just relax and argue the thread topic, Robbie.

Technically you could, but you know you're on thin ice and it would likely result in a ban; possibly a perma-ban. Then KMC would be yet another forum you'd need to sock in. So calm down and stop being such a belligerent troll 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Technically you could, but you know you're on thin ice and it would likely result in a ban; possibly a perma-ban. Then KMC would be yet another forum you'd need to sock in. So calm down and stop being such a belligerent troll 🙂
So despite me posting over 80,000 times and the majority of the posts on the comic versus I am afraid to go back. Lol. I can go back anytime I want and you'll never reach within ten thousand posts of my post count no matter where you post.

Argue the thread topic as keep your butthurt to yourself.

Originally posted by Robtard
Clearly you knew all a long and didn't say:

"but everything changed in the regular timeline" -Quanchi

"False. Narada ship takes on futuristic ships"- Quanchi

Regular time-line is unchanged; the Narada never fought futuristic ships 🙂

The red matter is FROM the future alt time-line, as is old Spock; that's the link between the two, why can't you grasp this.

Repeat: The alt time-line is still about a century behind. Inferior transporters, no holodeck, no replicators, one ship that can fight while at warp etc. <--- keep dodging all of this, it's telling 🙂

Common sense.

Yes, creating an alternate timeline or alternate universe.

Took down Spocks. 😂

Spocks. 😂

Yes, but we are including all reboot characters and tech for reboot versus ten films and you are still crying foul. Reboot is on another level.

Red matter is most superior thing from future and reboot has it at their disposal.

Reboot wins. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Common sense.

Yes, creating an alternate timeline or alternate universe.

Took down Spocks. 😂

Spocks. 😂

Yes, but we are including all reboot characters and tech for reboot versus ten films and you are still crying foul. Reboot is on another level.

Red matter is most superior thing from future and reboot has it at their disposal.

Reboot wins. 😂

Which you lack, hence the silly comments and errors and why I had to explain it all to you on page 9.

You're random rambling now, so ignoring.

Anyhow, they have no answer for a single Borg cube, The Scimitar or even the Enterprise E, with her crew and their on-demand problem solving capabilities, they'd likely solo. You'd know this, if you weren't TNG films ignorant 🙂

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I see. Well get to the cinema as you can.

Trust me, I will, though at this point I may have to choose between Man of Steel and Star Trek when I get around to it, and MOS will probably come first.

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Also, the main universe is still the "canon" universe. CBS and Paramount have said so due to Star Trek Online and the Enterprise F.

Originally posted by Robtard
Which you lack, hence the silly comments and errors and why I had to explain it all to you on page 9.

You're random rambling now, so ignoring.

Anyhow, they have no answer for a single Borg cube, The Scimitar or even the Enterprise E, with her crew and their on-demand problem solving capabilities, they'd likely solo. You'd know this, if you weren't TNG films ignorant 🙂

No, you go on long rants while proclaiming I didn't know.

You said it didn't defeat any futuristic ships but that's clearly wrong since he defeated Spocks. I answered your question and typical ignorant flames from you.

Red matter destroys it and easily. Have two of them so there goes both Scimitar and the Cube.

False. Red matter is the most powerful tech from the future and it seals the deal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you go on long rants while proclaiming I didn't know.

You said it didn't defeat any futuristic ships but that's clearly wrong since he defeated Spocks. I answered your question and typical ignorant flames from you.

Red matter destroys it and easily. Have two of them so there goes both Scimitar and the Cube.

False. Red matter is the most powerful tech from the future and it seals the deal.

You clearly make comments that show you don't know, I then explain it to you, you then pretend you knew all along and eventually down the road you claim I was the one that didn't know. It's a game you play all the time.

Incorrect. You claimed the Narada took on "futuristic ships". I explained to you that old Spock's ship wouldn't be "futuristic" compared to the Narada, as it's from the same time-line; you then when on to dismiss old Spock's ship as being "small and nothing" 🙂 Page 9

Keep dodging cos you can't properly counter when you're TNG films ignorant, I love it. Red Matter couldn't "seal the deal" with a 23rd century Enterprise. It's not defeating a Borg cube, the Scimitar or even the Enterprise E.

Just out of curiosity, Rob, I have to ask since you're more knowledgeable than I am on the matter:

If Red Matter makes black holes/singularities, how could any of those ships not be destroyed by them? And I'm not saying you're wrong, BTW, I'm just not seeing your angle.

Originally posted by Impediment
Just out of curiosity, Rob, I have to ask since you're more knowledgeable than I am on the matter:

If Red Matter makes black holes/singularities, how could any of those ships not be destroyed by them? And I'm not saying you're wrong, BTW, I'm just not seeing your angle.

Cos in ST, ships are able to resist to a degree due to their shielding and when surrounded by a warp bubble, the ship effectively distorts normal time-space, which is also what makes faster-than-light travel possible in ST.

Now if some red matter was activated inside a ship(how the Narada was destroyed) or arguably directly on the hull, that'd be a different story. But we saw the 23rd century Enterprise resist a super-massive black hole fairly well in Star Trek. Old Spock's ship and the Narada traveled through one to go back in time.

Even in the show Enterprise, which is in the 22nd century, the ship babbles around a black hole in one ep and that's a piece of crap compared to Kirk's or Picard's ship(s).

Originally posted by Robtard
You clearly make comments that show you don't know, I then explain it to you, you then pretend you knew all along and eventually down the road you claim I was the one that didn't know. It's a game you play all the time.

Incorrect. You claimed the Narada took on "futuristic ships". I explained to you that old Spock's ship wouldn't be "futuristic" compared to the Narada, as it's from the same time-line; you then when on to dismiss old Spock's ship as being "small and nothing" 🙂 Page 9

Keep dodging cos you can't properly counter when you're TNG films ignorant, I love it. Red Matter couldn't "seal the deal" with a 23rd century Enterprise. It's not defeating a Borg cube, the Scimitar or even the Enterprise E.

Im arguing they are from the future and you claim I don't know that. You're ridiculous.

It did as in Spocks which was a futuristic ship to the present time and easily commandeered it.

I don't think it's impressive but it directly answered your ridiculous question.

Yes, it can if its directly tossed onto it. Quit ignoring this just because reboots have the greatest weapon to date. Two flicks; superior.

Originally posted by Robtard
Cos in ST, ships are able to resist to a degree due to their shielding and when surrounded by a warp bubble, the ship effectively distorts normal time-space, which is also what makes faster-than-light travel possible in ST.

Now if some red matter was activated inside a ship(how the Narada was destroyed) or arguably directly on the hull, that'd be a different story. But we saw the 23rd century Enterprise resist a super-massive black hole fairly well in Star Trek. Old Spock's ship and the Narada traveled through one to go back in time.

Even in the show Enterprise, which is in the 22nd century, the ship babbles around a black hole in one ep and that's a piece of crap compared to Kirk's or Picard's ship(s).

It detonated on the ships which you agree destroys whatever it hits.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Im arguing they are from the future and you claim I don't know that. You're ridiculous.

It did as in Spocks which was a futuristic ship to the present time and easily commandeered it.

I don't think it's impressive but it directly answered your ridiculous question.

Yes, it can if its directly tossed onto it. Quit ignoring this just because reboots have the greatest weapon to date. Two flicks; superior.

Your comments where clowny and showed a serious lack of knowledge. If you want to say you knew and meant something else, whatever. Don't care, moving on.

And your premise is that the Narada (or Spock's ship) is going to just "directly toss" some red matter into a Borg cube, the Scimitar or the Enterprise E, let alone all the other ships seen in the TNG films? Explain how.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It detonated on the ships which you agree destroys whatever it hits.

The Jellyfish (old Spock's ship) was rammed directly into the Narada; that's why it was destroyed by a back hole. This method is a one trick pony, trading ship for ship.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Jellyfish (old Spock's ship) was rammed directly into the Narada; that's why it was destroyed by a back hole. This method is a one trick pony, trading ship for ship.
Yes, one small shitty ship against a superior ship and not dying. Lol. Red matter seals the deal.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your comments where clowny and showed a serious lack of knowledge. If you want to say you knew and meant something else, whatever. Don't care, moving on.

And your premise is that the Narada (or Spock's ship) is going to just "directly toss" some red matter into a Borg cube, the Scimitar or the Enterprise E, let alone all the other ships seen in the TNG films? Explain how.

They were futuristic compared to Enterprise.

Smaller Ships do so. As done in the movies. Quit asking stupid questions I am arguing in character.

So the reboot side's only real argument is to ignore the future ships and to hope that red matter does the job.

Not seeing it, tbh. shrug

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were futuristic compared to Enterprise.

Smaller Ships do so. As done in the movies. Quit asking stupid questions I am arguing in character.

We were discussing the Narada, anyhow, moving on.

Spock's ship rammed itself into the Narada 🙂 It's a one shot deal then, a ship for a ship. You have nothing else; you know it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, one small shitty ship against a superior ship and not dying. Lol. Red matter seals the deal.

It was a suicide run and the Jellyfish was destoyed in the process. It's like you didn't pay attention in Star Trek at all 🙂

But your suicide run might destroy one TNG vessel if it manages to hit before a superior ship destroys it since the Jellyfish is a small science vessel. Other TNG ships then clean house. Game over, you tried, right.

Originally posted by Robtard
We were discussing the Narada, anyhow.

Spock's ship rammed itself into the Narada 🙂 It's a one shot deal then. You have nothing; you know it.

Your suicide run might destroy one TNG vessel if it manages to hit before a superior ship destroys it since it's a small science vessel. It's not touching the Scimitar for sure, which then cleans how and easily 🙂

It worked as did it work against the super nova. More than one red matter weapon.