Khan vs. Darth Vader (pre suit)

Originally posted by Silent Master
Different timelines count? Does that mean we can use animated movie Thor for Thor vs threads..after all, it's just a different timeline?

It's literally the same person, he just happened to split into two realities due to time-tampering. Prior to Nero going back in time, the Khan's have the same exact history and are one.

eg Both Ricardo and Benedict Khan are the same/one in the 20th century during the Eugenic Wars.

The animated Thor films are a different take on the same character, unless you can show a connection where the animated and film Thor's are linked? I wasn't aware they were.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Different timelines count? Does that mean we can use animated movie Thor for Thor vs threads..after all, it's just a different timeline?

It's the same Khan: the timelines diverged. Both both shows have the same exact Khan because he came from their mutual past.

Same Khan, same abilities, etc.

I just remembered, Kirk beat Khan in the TV series.....using those feats would actually hurt Khan's chances.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I just remembered, Kirk beat Khan in the TV series.....using those feats would actually hurt Khan's chances.

You must be old...really old.

Like Robtard old.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You must be old...really old.

Like Robtard old.

Or I have the DVD's.

Originally posted by KingD19
It makes perfect sense. Aside from Obi-Wan and Sidious, no one knows about Anakin's massive injuries. To show those injuries would be to show weakness, which is why the only time Vader ever took his helmet off was in his Meditation Chamber(also the only time he could breathe without it) and when he wanted to see Luke's face with his own eyes before he died. His helmet had a rebreather and scanners, while his chest piece monitored his vitals and kept him alive. The rest was just menacing attire unless you can prove otherwise.

Because while it was state Vader supposedly had Beskar gloves in the books, Beskar doesn't exist in the movies, so you can't make that claim. Either we assume it was Force Deflection, which Anakin would know by that point with continued Force study(especially since he was fast enough to hold his hand up because he knew where Han would shoot), or his robo hand tanked the blaster bolts.

If his hand tanked the blast, it still would have burned through his glove though.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I just remembered, Kirk beat Khan in the TV series.....using those feats would actually hurt Khan's chances.

It's cos Shatner Kirk is virtually unbeatable.

Pine Kirk has yet to prove himself the same in his time-line. It's possible the time-split robbed or weakened Pine Kirk of his innate Kirk powers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Look you already agreed that toon film doesn't count. Are you backing down now ?

Firstly your the one who just mentioned 7 films.

Secondly I did no such thing. The Toon film is canon to Lucas ans is legitimately a Star Wars film. And it only takes That One Movie to prove Vader/Skywalker stomps.

What I agreed to in the now closed Battlezone was that Vader would win the battle zone just based on the live action movies.

Originally posted by Silent Master and edited by dadudemon
Or I have the STD's.

shocking

Originally posted by DARTH POWER and edited for spelling and punctuation by dadudemon
Secondly, I did no such thing. The Toon film is canon to Lucas and is legitimately a Star Wars film. And it only takes That One Movie to prove Vader/Skywalker stomps.

Yes, f*cking this! It is about damn time someone else acknowledge that damn quote I posted from Lucas!

Vader stomps now with clone wars feats, including the CW mini...

Originally posted by dadudemon

Yes, f*cking this! It is about damn time someone else acknowledge that damn quote I posted from Lucas!

Originally posted by Silent Master
My claim is that they would fire their phasers, so you disagreeing means that either you don't believe it's possible to fire the phasers at the same time or you believe one of them is incapable of firing a phaser.

Since you've admitted that it's possible to fire more than 1 phaser at a time, you must believe that at least one member of the team doesn't know how to work a phaser.

So, which member are you claiming is incapable of firing a phaser?

This is still going on?

Screen feats people, screen feats

Originally posted by KingD19
It makes perfect sense. Aside from Obi-Wan and Sidious, no one knows about Anakin's massive injuries. To show those injuries would be to show weakness, which is why the only time Vader ever took his helmet off was in his Meditation Chamber(also the only time he could breathe without it) and when he wanted to see Luke's face with his own eyes before he died. His helmet had a rebreather and scanners, while his chest piece monitored his vitals and kept him alive. The rest was just menacing attire unless you can prove otherwise.

Because while it was state Vader supposedly had Beskar gloves in the books, Beskar doesn't exist in the movies, so you can't make that claim. Either we assume it was Force Deflection, which Anakin would know by that point with continued Force study(especially since he was fast enough to hold his hand up because he knew where Han would shoot), or his robo hand tanked the blaster bolts.

Originally posted by Robtard
It'd still be the same character. Just two different timelines.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's the same Khan: the timelines diverged. Both both shows have the same exact Khan because he came from their mutual past.

Same Khan, same abilities, etc.

Fight only applies to old Khan since it never happened to nuKhan.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Firstly your the one who just mentioned 7 films.

Secondly I did no such thing. The Toon film is canon to Lucas ans is legitimately a Star Wars film. And it only takes That One Movie to prove Vader/Skywalker stomps.

What I agreed to in the now closed Battlezone was that Vader would win the battle zone just based on the live action movies.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Vader stomps now with clone wars feats, including the CW mini...

Originally posted by focus4chumps

Are you arguing EU Anakin loses now?

You fool.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Kirk punch him and unable to even hurt him over and over. We see the original lame fight in which Kirk defeats him with a push fight. Lamest fight I've ever seen. Old Star Trek was so lame it's almost humorous.

Fight only applies to old Khan since it never happened to nuKhan.

No, in that fight Kirk was more experienced, but he had to use a metal piece to actually hurt Khan. In the movie he's still only 5 times stronger than a human, and Vulcans are only triple human strength. So we have one violent and tactical genetically engineered man with 5 times normal human muscle strength and endurance, with large energy canons that only have so much ammo, versus a being created by the Force. Anakin, the most prodigious Force wielder of all time - who has taken out Durge.

Durge would wtf pwn twenty Khans.

YouTube video

You even admitted you didn't know anything about the EU. Goes to show.