Khan vs. Darth Vader (pre suit)

Originally posted by quanchi112
If someone fires a bullet into a bullet proof vest does that mean I can shrug off bullets minus the vest ?

To make your point even better, even with a bullet proof vest, that shit still hurts like a mother f*cker.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Kirk punch him and unable to even hurt him over and over. We see the original lame fight in which Kirk defeats him with a push fight. Lamest fight I've ever seen. Old Star Trek was so lame it's almost humorous.

Fight only applies to old Khan since it never happened to nuKhan.

We are well past the "first few posts" so you cannot add new rules pertaining to Khan this is. Dems da rules.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In character Vader isn't evading the gunfire to close the distance. We even see Windu has to do so in order to best Jango. Windu is at the upper level of jedis. He couldn't avoid blast fire or precog his way out of it. Vader needs to block the blasts and he can't do so. Khan will use both guns too atone target.

Hand to hand I'm glad you agree Khan would maul him.

Luke deflected a blast powerful enough to destroy a Speeder Bike...and he was relatively insignificant next to Mace Windu, who did deflect all of Jango's blaster bolts before amputating his weapon hand and then decapitating him. Vader could deflect them with his gloves alone.

Just because the canon can destroy one undefended Clingon Ship that's PARKED, doesn't mean Anakin can't deflect its blasts.

Mace Windu would rape Khan worse.

Originally posted by dadudemon
To make your point even better, even with a bullet proof vest, that shit still hurts like a mother f*cker.

We are well past the "first few posts" so you cannot add new rules pertaining to Khan this is. Dems da rules.

Alternate realities are completely different characters with new experiences, etc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Only applies to old Khan. That never happens to this Khan.

Alternate realities are completely different characters with new experiences, etc.

Kirk would still knock his ass out with a crowbar.

Originally posted by Dolos
Kirk would still knock his ass out with a crowbar.

Anakin dodged a powerful concussive blast that was way too wide for his lightsaber in Epidosde II.

In Episode I we see Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan utilizing Force speed, sprinting at hyper fast velocities to where the Droidekas couldn't even hit them.

In Episode II and III that's just how they fight. Khan can't react to that, and he can't tag Anakin.

But Anakin should be able to deflect Khan's blasts with his lightsaber. He should also be able to Force Grip his blaster and crush the barrel or something.

Originally posted by Dolos
Luke deflected a blast powerful enough to destroy a Speeder Bike...and he was relatively insignificant next to Mace Windu, who did deflect all of Jango's blaster bolts before amputating his weapon hand and then decapitating him. Vader could deflect them with his gloves alone.

Just because the canon can destroy one undefended Clingon Ship that's PARKED, doesn't mean Anakin can't deflect its blasts.

Mace Windu would rape Khan worse.

Prove it then.

Not at all. Khan beats Windu as well. 🙂

Windu would rape Anakin though.

Originally posted by Dolos
Anakin dodged a powerful concussive blast that was way too wide for his lightsaber in Epidosde II.

In Episode I we see Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan utilizing Force speed, sprinting at hyper fast velocities to where the Droidekas couldn't even hit them.

In Episode II and III that's just how they fight. Khan can't react to that, and he can't tag Anakin.

That isn't relevant to Darth Vader. Didn't help Obi against Jango Fett either.

Easily drums him. Khan took out a squad of Klingons singlehandedly.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not a chance.

How do you know, he got knocked out by a laser set for stun.

He resisted a few blasts when fighting Spock, but Spock got up and knocked his ass out without a crowbar.

Anakin is on another level altogether.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Show the clip.

That isn't relevant to Darth Vader. Didn't help Obi against Jango Fett either.

Easily drums him. Khan took out a squad of Klingons singlehandedly.

😂

Jango would beat his ass, too. Galactic Mandalorian Bounty Hunter.

And all he could do was flee from Kenobi.

This is getting stupid now, Sidious.

You can't get it right. Khan loses every time here.

Originally posted by Dolos
How do you know, he got knocked out by a laser set for stun.

He resisted a few blasts when fighting Spock, but Spock got up and knocked his ass out without a crowbar.

Anakin is on another level altogether.

He was destroying an enraged Spock and was then shot 7-8 blasts. Spock woud destroy Vader if he connected with him. He also resisted Vulcan pinch.

No, Anakin is an emotional weakling. Just a tragic failure.

Originally posted by Dolos
Jango would beat his ass, too. Galactic Mandalorian Bounty Hunter.

And all he could do was flee from Kenobi.

Khan wrecks this pathetic bounty hunter. Khan would effortlessly slaughter him. Superior in every way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was destroying an enraged Spock

Khan was enraged, too. Thought his whole crew was dead.

As for the rest, Anakin doesn't need a lightsaber or telekinesis or precog, just Force rage in a hand to hand fight, and he'd beat Khan 100 times in a row.

Originally posted by Dolos
This is getting stupid now, Sidious.

You can't get it right. Khan loses every time here.

Vader got his ass beat by Obi. One on one fight and he cried like a ***** after he lost to an inferior opponent. If he can't beat inferior opponents he sure as hell isn't beating superior ones.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Had Obi on his ass rocking him. You use Obis speed dash but ignore how he fights.

Khan wrecks this pathetic bounty hunter. Khan would effortlessly slaughter him. Superior in every way.

Your argument is about cinematography, and is not considerate of chronicled depiction. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

Originally posted by Dolos
Khan was enraged, too. Thought his whole crew was dead.

As for the rest, Anakin doesn't need a lightsaber or telekinesis or precog, just Force rage in a hand to hand fight, and he'd beat Khan 100 times in a row.

Anakin can't resist the Vulcan pinch. That's the point. Anakin can't laugh off pinches either. Khan is smarter, stronger, superior weaponry, superior reflexes, superior cell regeneration.

Originally posted by Dolos
Your argument is about cinematography, and is not considerate of chronicled depiction. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is smarter, stronger, superior weaponry, superior reflexes, superior cell regeneration.

Wrong on all accounts. Anakin is enhanced and sustained by the Force to levels that dwarf Captain America.

He was slammed through a blast door by Durge.

Canonically.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My argument is all based off factual data not cherry picked feats therefore making your argument both biased and invalid.

No, your argument is all cherry picked feats.