Originally posted by DARTH POWERKhan also showed skill unlike in their first fight. Cry about it all you want but they are different characters with experiences.
Kirk didn't give him the same types of hits in the back and with a weapon that TOS Kirk did.
The fact I have to explain this to you shows how behind the times you are w basic logic in the first place.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Continuity buff said it was t canon. That was his job. 😂Not highest form of canon. Quit blowing smoke there's no fire.
Canon to tv series which has Maul back comtradicts the movies ie not G canon.
Entirely different portrayal than movies as well. Cry about it. I'm going to destroy you in our battlezone.
T -Canon IS CANON. Deal with it.
G-Canon is actually everything George Lucas says. And he said Clone Wars in canon.
Maul being resurectted is not a contradiction. The show continues from him being chopped in 2.
Stop crying because all it takes is a Vulcan and a girl with a phaser set to stun to defeat Khan.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERNo, it wouldn't. Khan resisted the nerve attack.
Yeah and? It would still KO Khan. The guy got KO's by a few stun blasts.He was actually KO's by just 1 earlier in the movie.
Khan can't be kod by stun blasts Hes aware of as proven by the movie.
Cheap shot and he quickly recovered. Anakin was easily kod by one opponent not someone who cheap shotted him.
Khan has been proven to be >>>than anyone in one on one combat. Anakin can't even best an inferior in Obi after a lengthy one on one fight.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERNot the highest form of canon. Deal with it. These works contradict movies.
T -Canon IS CANON. Deal with it.G-Canon is actually everything George Lucas says. And he said Clone Wars in canon.
Maul being resurectted is not a contradiction. The show continues from him being chopped in 2.
Stop crying because all it takes is a Vulcan and a girl with a phaser set to stun to defeat Khan.
Lucas sold the rights and continuity buff disagrees.
Yes, it is since we never see him back nor is that consistent with movie portrayals.
You are leaving out plane crash, armed opponent, and 7-8 blasts. All it takes to beat Vader is Obi in a fair one on one fight.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan also showed skill unlike in their first fight. Cry about it all you want but they are different characters with experiences.The fact I have to explain this to you shows how behind the times you are w basic logic in the first place.
What different experiences? Getting unfrozen by someone else and working with Starfleet for a bit? Yeah, that's sure to make him indestructible.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not the highest form of canon. Deal with it. These works contradict movies.Lucas sold the rights and continuity buff disagrees.
Yes, it is since we never see him back nor is that consistent with movie portrayals.
You are leaving out plane crash, armed opponent, and 7-8 blasts. All it takes to beat Vader is Obi in a fair one on one fight.
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Not HIGHEST FORM of Canon but still Canon. And given a special rating to put it just a notch below. And they guy giving it that rating is still saying IT'S CANON. Deal with it kiddo.
No contradictions. I've watched the whole show and there's nothing. It was LUCAS himself who wanted to bring Maul back.
Kenobi would chop up Khan anyway, so your point is moot.
Haha I'd take going down to Kenobi anyday over a Vulcan and a girl! 😂
Originally posted by DARTH POWERWe see a clear jump in reflexes, hand to hand combat, intelligence, far better feats.
What different experiences? Getting unfrozen by someone else and working with Starfleet for a bit? Yeah, that's sure to make him indestructible.
Different characters as the experiences are different. I'm right.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERNot highest level. I mean I don't see the eu either but neither are highest level to canon.
Not HIGHEST FORM of Canon but still Canon. And given a special rating to put it just a notch below. And they guy giving it that rating is still saying IT'S CANON. Deal with it kiddo.No contradictions. I've watched the whole show and there's nothing. It was LUCAS himself who wanted to bring Maul back.
Kenobi would chop up Khan anyway, so your point is moot.
Haha I'd take going down to Kenobi anyday over a Vulcan and a girl! 😂
Lucas Didnt do so in that manner so only canon to tv series and show.
Baseless speculation. Obi couldn't even best Jango Fett. Lol.
I'd take beating an armed opponent, and resisting 7-8 blasts than an inferior opponent begging that you don't jump so he doesn't have to kill him. Awful. Vader lost to an opponent who didn't even want to kill him when it came time to do it.
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Vader chokes unarmed women aka his wife. What a man.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not highest level. I mean I don't see the eu either but neither are highest level to canon.Lucas Didnt do so in that manner so only canon to tv series and show.
TCW is a Canon movie. Either show where it's stated to be a non-canon movie or stop trolling. You've been given enough evidence of it's canonicity. And your going against forum rules by ignoring it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Baseless speculation. Obi couldn't even best Jango Fett. Lol.
Jango flew away. And had the help of a starship and was facing a weaker Kenobi who wasn't even a Council Member yet. Context is your friend.
Khan can't beat a Vulcan and a girl 😂 Kenobi would chop him bad!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Vader chokes unarmed women aka his wife. What a man.
And he Force smacks Kenobi across the room. (Who force smacks him back, but Khan won't be able to). And he easily levitates and throws around multiple droids. And he crushes all the driods in the room by merely screaming.
Khan is so dead. He will simply get Force crushed.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThe man whose job is to oversee continuity says differently. T canon.
TCW is a Canon movie. Either show where it's stated to be a non-canon movie or stop trolling. You've been given enough evidence of it's canonicity. And your going against forum rules by ignoring it.Jango flew away. And had the help of a starship and was facing a weaker Kenobi who wasn't even a Council Member yet. Context is your friend.
Khan can't beat a Vulcan and a girl 😂 Kenobi would chop him bad!
And he Force smacks Kenobi across the room. (Who force smacks him back, but Khan won't be able to). And he easily levitates and throws around multiple droids. And he crushes all the driods in the room by merely screaming.
Khan is so dead. He will simply get Force crushed.
I'm saying that these feats can count in a generalized thread but I don't see it as canon. Quit sobbing about it.
Kenobi was trying to bring him in. He clearly didn't. Jango had him all over the place showing skill can test and beat a Jedi. Order 66 also cemented this case.
Khan had them all beat and at his mercy when she didn't teleport in in the middle of a fight in which Khan was winning. Context. Dooku defeated Anakin in a two on one advantage. Horrible.
Khan is superior. Just accept it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The man whose job is to oversee continuity says differently. T canon.I'm saying that these feats can count in a generalized thread but I don't see it as canon. Quit sobbing about it.
Incorrect. If you are going to use canon lawyering, at least have the common decency to apply Star Wars canon policy correctly.
TCW Exists, it is T Canon, If it doesn't conflict with C Canon, then it's feats are admissible. This is the official company policy as directed by Leland Chee, the arbitrator of the Holocron, and the man PAID to organise canon.
Wether or not you see it as canon is of no consequence Quan, you don't get to dismiss legitimate evidence. If you wanted a strict movie canon only, then you should have said so in the OP.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi was trying to bring him in. He clearly didn't. Jango had him all over the place showing skill can test and beat a Jedi. Order 66 also cemented this case.
Situational circumstances, one is conducted by a sith lord who had prepped it for decades, and the other was done by a frigging Mandalorian, who have been known to make Jedi struggle in combat in the past, and continue to do so. Kahn on the other hand has no knowledge of a Jedi's abilities/powers, nor their individual skills.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan had them all beat and at his mercy when she didn't teleport in in the middle of a fight in which Khan was winning. Context. Dooku defeated Anakin in a two on one advantage. Horrible.
Back at you, as in context. Anakin was far FAR less powerful as a padawan. he was hotheaded and arrogant. He mellowed somewhat afterwards when he got knighted.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is superior. Just accept it.
You are deciding before the debate is done again Quan...
Originally posted by quanchi112
The man whose job is to oversee continuity says differently. T canon.
He says it's canon. Lucas says it's canon. Disney has kept it as canon. TCW Movie is a SW movie according to forum rules.
Everyone says it's canon except you.
Stop trolling now. TCW is canon. And that's a fact.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi was trying to bring him in. He clearly didn't. Jango had him all over the place showing skill can test and beat a Jedi.
He couldn't beat Kenobi. Even with the help of a Starship and a Jet pack to keep his distance. He still ran away. Khan won't be able to run. He will die.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan had them all beat and at his mercy when she didn't teleport in in the middle of a fight in which Khan was winning.
LOL he got beat fair and square by One Vulcan and one girl with a phaser set to stun!
And then you have the nerve to point out Jango merely escaping Kenobi with the aid of a frigging starship!
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Originally posted by Darkstorm Zeroit is t canon but isn't the highest level of canon. It is canon according to the tv series and what not but not at the highest level. Only recognize highest levels not the other ones.
Incorrect. If you are going to use canon lawyering, at least have the common decency to apply Star Wars canon policy correctly.TCW Exists, it is T Canon, If it doesn't conflict with C Canon, then it's feats are admissible. This is the official company policy as directed by Leland Chee, the arbitrator of the Holocron, and the man PAID to organise canon.
Wether or not you see it as canon is of no consequence Quan, you don't get to dismiss legitimate evidence. If you wanted a strict movie canon only, then you should have said so in the OP.
Situational circumstances, one is conducted by a sith lord who had prepped it for decades, and the other was done by a frigging Mandalorian, who have been known to make Jedi struggle in combat in the past, and continue to do so. Kahn on the other hand has no knowledge of a Jedi's abilities/powers, nor their individual skills.
Back at you, as in context. Anakin was far FAR less powerful as a padawan. he was hotheaded and arrogant. He mellowed somewhat afterwards when he got knighted.
You are deciding before the debate is done again Quan...
That's my opinion I don't see Maul as coming back into the highest canon. I allow it here as I wasn't aware but am rolling with it.
The Sith Lord knew the Jedi could be defeated by skilled clones. He was right. Khan doesn't need knowledge of his opponent in order to best him. Conversely, Vader has no knowledge of his weaponry or his skill. Khan looked a lot more impressive than say a whole slew of Jedi against Jango and droids in AOTC.
They were going to be overwhelmed until Yoda showed up with backup. Khan shit on a squad of Klingons on top of their ships on their home world, Kronos.
No, he didn't mellow out since we see him easily manipulated into killing Dooku. We also see him out of mind against Obi and since he turned to the dark side. Was at unstable as you can be. Undeniable.
I am deciding it based off the movies in an objective fashion. I acted the battle out last night just to be sure. Khan won.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERHe says its t canon not g canon. Different levels of continuity. I am arguing and allowing feats here I just don't see it canon. Relax, fanboy.
He says it's canon. Lucas says it's canon. Disney has kept it as canon. TCW Movie is a SW movie according to forum rules.Everyone says it's canon except you.
Stop trolling now. TCW is canon. And that's a fact.
He couldn't beat Kenobi. Even with the help of a Starship and a Jet pack to keep his distance. He still ran away. Khan won't be able to run. He will die.
LOL he got beat fair and square by One Vulcan and one girl with a phaser set to stun!
And then you have the nerve to point out Jango merely escaping Kenobi with the aid of a frigging starship!
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Nope, feats are allowed I don't see it as g canon.
Khan won't run. Obi was supposed to bring him in, Jango clearly showed he was a threat to him. He was leaving anyways. Point is Obi was disarmed and rather easily. Obi, Anakin, Windu, and others were being overwhelmed by droids in AOTC.
Khan was beating the Vulcan after he survived his chip crashing. 7-8 blasts and what not later allowed Spock the time to recover. Awesome showing for Khan.
Jango fought him one on one. Obi almost died by falling into the water while in combat against Jango. Disarmed. Awful.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The way he seduced that woman. How quickly she fell for him, betrayed him, and then he forgave her. Kirk after almost being killed letting him go on his own planet.Again, different Khan as every experience we see is different thus entirely different characters.
You prefer the male boring soap opera Star Trek original was but unlike you I don't have any female tendencies.
How does any of that make Khan illogical, as you just claimed he was in the ToS? As far as the love aspect, they feel nigh instantly in love; they just clicked together. It happens.
It's been explained several times to you now and by different people. You're simply not getting the timeline split it or you're purposely being stubborn since you're incapable of admitting you're wrong.
'You're the girl, I'm not the girl!" More rants and tears.
Anyhow, Vader, still winning this since page one.
Originally posted by quanchi112
it is t canon but isn't the highest level of canon. It is canon according to the tv series and what not but not at the highest level. Only recognize highest levels not the other ones.
That's you rejecting canon on your own prerogative then, don't expect anyone else to follow suit, because the rest of the canon is still legit wether you accept it or not.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's my opinion I don't see Maul as coming back into the highest canon. I allow it here as I wasn't aware but am rolling with it.
See, understand something here, your opinion is irrelevant. Nobody cares.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Sith Lord knew the Jedi could be defeated by skilled clones. He was right. Khan doesn't need knowledge of his opponent in order to best him. Conversely, Vader has no knowledge of his weaponry or his skill. Khan looked a lot more impressive than say a whole slew of Jedi against Jango and droids in AOTC.
Hahahahaaa! Righto! WAYYYY to overhype! It's not as if Kahn was soloing them!
Originally posted by quanchi112
They were going to be overwhelmed until Yoda showed up with backup. Khan shit on a squad of Klingons on top of their ships on their home world, Kronos.
Yoda showed up and fought Dooku 1 on 1, and beat his @$$. Klingons vs Mando Clones with their vehicles...... Klingons vs B1 and B2 Droids with their vehicles... Nope, sorry... Klingons in security patrol vessels ain't going to be doing jack squat to Dooku, Anakin OR Obi...
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he didn't mellow out since we see him easily manipulated into killing Dooku. We also see him out of mind against Obi and since he turned to the dark side. Was at unstable as you can be. Undeniable.
Easily? I see you underestimate just how much influence Palps had over Anakin during his entire life post Tatooine. Compared to his first fight with Dooku, are you going to now claim Anakin was exactly the same skill wise? That's retarded...
And I'm unstable? Well well well... look who breaks out the personal attacks first in this thread eh? Do I get to you so bad little man? I noticed you havn't replied in the other threads this time, and you wandered off to another forum... does that make you a coward now? It is the exact claim you threw at me after all. Unstable is your MO dude.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am deciding it based off the movies in an objective fashion. I acted the battle out last night just to be sure. Khan won.
Your opinion of objective fashion is about as laughable as your conception of contexts. You have one overwhelmingly defining characteristic Quan, you are absolutely the most narrow minded person I have run across in a LOOOONG time. And once you fixate on something, you can never ever be swayed, and every other point of view is treated with contempt.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He says its t canon not g canon. Different levels of continuity. I am arguing and allowing feats here I just don't see it canon. Relax, fanboy.
The only time different "Continuity's" are mentioned anywhere, are those which are canon to Lucas (G and T canon) and the rest as a seprate world the EU world.
So again your wrong. TCW is canon. To Lucas, to Leeland Chee. To the films, to the EU, to Disney, to Everyone but you.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The only time different "Continuity's" are mentioned anywhere, are those which are canon to Lucas (G and T canon) and the rest as a seprate world the EU world.So again your wrong. TCW is canon. To Lucas, to Leeland Chee. To the films, to the EU, to Disney, to Everyone but you.
Quanchi's still pretending GL is wrong about his own creation:
"I haven’t limited myself with what stories I've wanted to tell; This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between [Clone Wars] and the films," - George Lucas