Originally posted by janus77
Except they do not, as they are explained by writers as being evidence of him holding back.You either accept what Marvel says about the character they publish or you don't. I suspect you don't.
What heavy hitter doesn't hold back?
We can go back and forth arguing who holds back more, but that's why there's a "CIS is on" rule, to keep threads from devolving into, basically, what this threads turned into anyways. 😛
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. Characters far weaker than other characters have sent them flying. The mere fact that superman was letting hulk pound on him without even budging is ridiculous in itself. Can you name any other character who has done something like that?Superman was looking for something and yet casually blocked hulk's punch. That's nonchalant by definition.
Yes they have. But this was a direct contest of might, Superman's immovability vs. Hulk's strength.
No one denied that Pre-Crisis Superman was more powerful then today's heralds. It is a ridiculous feat, but Hulk was increasing in might astronomically, and in a few seconds I think not too far off from Clark.
Yea, I guess agree to disagree with that.
Originally posted by cdtm
What heavy hitter doesn't hold back?We can go back and forth arguing who holds back more, but that's why there's a "CIS is on" rule, to keep threads from devolving into, basically, what this threads turned into anyways. 😛
I wonder how that happened? Shall we turn back the pages to see?
Originally posted by cdtm
🙁 If you're implying it's my fault, I don't remember doing so....in this particular thread. 😉
Nope I wasn't blaming you. I should have just said that it happened just before -Pr- suggested to keep Superman out of this topic. After all Superman holds back for fear of killing his opponents, while Orion goes full tilter.
All the same. In order for Orion to dominate the Hulk, he would have to be operating at above the 130 Herc range. That would directly implicate that Orion was way above Thor, and I'm having trouble seeing that.
Originally posted by Stoic
All the same. In order for Orion to dominate the Hulk, he would have to be operating at above the 130 Herc range. That would directly implicate that Orion was way above Thor, and I'm having trouble seeing that.
He should do as well as Thor. 😛
Looking at his other fights, imo Thor gets downplayed as much as Hulk's strength varies, imo. Plenty have done as well or better.
Originally posted by carver9
@CDTM...So you are going to post a fight that happened off panel. Should I post the Firestorm vs Orion fight that happened twice? I promise you that showing is a lot worse.
The point is, Thor holds back too. Except in "The Reigning", where he virtually became a villain for a time.
So, it's not really a knock on Thor to claim anyone does better , given how Thor's one of those characters that's known for holding back, and holding back significantly.
Doomsday takes Orion out with a boulder and a tank.
http://m1180.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanpics/dw_jla3.jpg.html
http://m1180.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanpics/dw_jla4.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
Doomsday takes Orion out with a boulder and a tank.http://m1180.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanpics/dw_jla3.jpg.html
http://m1180.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanpics/dw_jla4.jpg.html
You're comparing that, to Thor killing Hulk?
Thor killing Hulk shouldn't even be considered a low end feat.. It's THOR. I know we joke about how badly he gets written, but lets be serious.. Thor could absolutely destroy many versions of Hulk, if he went all out.
Originally posted by Stoic
Why did you use that scan? That version of Thor would eat Orion, Superman, and the Hulk.
Because of the Odinpower? Dr. Strange and a group of mystics inhibited it.
And Thor did lose an arm in the conflict.
The only difference between this Thor, and your normal Thor that usually fought Hulk, is this Thor was out for blood. (Strictly speaking, I guess you can argue this version of Thor isn't canon anymore because of the time shift.. Marvel really ruined the fun of time travel stories by letting What If writers do whatever they want, and explaining it with "any time muckery becomes a What If, even if the character thinks it was them doing it before the time shift."😉
Originally posted by cdtm
Because of the Odinpower? Dr. Strange and a group of mystics inhibited it.And Thor did lose an arm in the conflict.
The only difference between this Thor, and your normal Thor that usually fought Hulk, is this Thor was out for blood. (Strictly speaking, I guess you can argue this version of Thor isn't canon anymore because of the time shift.. Marvel really ruined the fun of time travel stories by letting What If writers do whatever they want, and explaining it with "any time muckery becomes a What If, even if the character thinks it was them doing it before the time shift."😉
If that were true then Thor would have destroyed Rulk with his double handed Mjolnir smash, but it isn't, or wasn't the average Thor that that scan portrays, but an amped Thor. In the arctic, Thor was out for blood when he fought merged Hulk, and we saw how well that went.
