Barsen'thor vs Count Dooku

Dooku did flee the battle in Witches of the Mist, Mizukage. He and Ventress did put Oppress down, but he got right back up again as Dooku fled down that hatch.

Even if I think its stupid that Oppress is as good as he is, the fact remains that he did disarm Dooku, choked Dooku and Ventress out and then put both of them on their asses with single swings. Dooku didn't come out of the fight looking like a clear superior.

As for Dooku not beating Anakin with the Force: Dooku just isn't powerful enough to beat him that way. He's used the Force against Anakin repeatedly, but it always does little more than impede him. The gap in power isn't big enough for him to own Anakin in that matter. Barring that one duel where Anakin was shocked repeatedly with electrostaffs, and even then Dooku was breathing hard afterwards despite barely doing anything.

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Absolutely agreed. Also, thanks for additional information.

I still think that, in an open environment, Dooku should be able to overpower a duo of Ventress and Opress.

Perhaps, as long as Oppress doesn't go berserk as he did in Witches of the Mist.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I still think that, in an open environment, Dooku should be able to overpower a duo of Ventress and Opress.

The initial setting (where the "duel in question" began) represents an open environment actually.

Opress lacked in training aspect; he is strong otherwise.

I doubt Dooku would be able to penetrate Barsen'thors Force Defenses, and same with Vice-Versa.

However, while Dooku has more skill with Telekinesis, from what I've seen in this thread, his power with the Force barely compares. Smashing through that blast door is an incredible feat.

I suppose it all boils down to whether or not the Barsen'thor can use Tutenemis. If he/she can, then they take this battle. If not, then Dooku will do to them what he did to Opress in witches of the mist.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I doubt Dooku would be able to penetrate Barsen'thors Force Defenses, and same with Vice-Versa.

However, while Dooku has more skill with Telekinesis, from what I've seen in this thread, his power with the Force barely compares. Smashing through that blast door is an incredible feat.

I suppose it all boils down to whether or not the Barsen'thor can use Tutenemis. If he/she can, then they take this battle. If not, then Dooku will do to them what he did to Opress in witches of the mist.

In addition, Barsen'thor should logically have an answer to Force lightning since she encountered many foes which wielded this power. First Son is specially a "master of the Force" and his attacks would be logically very lethal and dangerous. Star Wars games from Bioware are not very realistic in depiction of Force powers and battles unfortunately.

Dooku is outgunned. I don't recall Dooku being able to defeat any "master of the Force" level individual.

No, but he was able to have a wizards duel with Yoda and not be too embarrassed. 😉

Another feat:

YouTube video

18.00 Smashes a rock into a force field generator hard enough to demolish it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Another feat:

YouTube video

18.00 Smashes a rock into a force field generator hard enough to demolish it.

Not sure I'd count that as gameplay. You need to destroy the generators to complete the quest afterall. If you mean the animation is non-canon then maybe, though I'd say that the developers made the conscious decision to have them be demolished rather than simply broken.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Gameplay is non-canon excellent

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Dooku never fought on par with Yoda; this fight is a perfect example of PIS. Yoda held back with his Force powers and chose to disarm Dooku with his dueling skills instead. Yoda wanted to turn Dooku back to light.

If your going to claim to know Yoda's intentions you should at least post proof of this. In fact Yoda doesn't even believe one can be turned back to the light once they have embraced the Dark Side (ESB/ROTJ).

And he admits in DR that he's always been willing to kill Dooku if it came to that "Even here.. Love you enough to kill you I do."

Yoda's > Dooku obviously, but Dooku can clearly put up a fight.

Finally finished the Consular story. Some last feats:

YouTube video

2.12, the Barsen'thor shrugs off a telepathic assault from the First Son. Then at 5.12 the Barsen'thor appears to use the Force to overpower the First Son's will in order to give Syo back his mind. This is backed up later when the Council credits her with overcoming his will so I guess that is what shes doing. Also the First Son has an attack called 'collapse cavern' where he starts pulling shit down from the ceiling. Not sure about its canonicity but you know.

Theres also proof that the Emperor's Children are really powerful. At 7.50 Master Jaeden says that after losing the First Sons protection they can sense the immense power of the Emperor's children "Their darkness screams at use." Furthermore at 14.35 one manages to temporarily overwhelm the Barsen'thor:

YouTube video

Also one unleashes a nasty blast of lightning at 29.30. That wet crunch was cringey.

He flicked Obi-Wan.

He gathered the Force once more in a single indrawn breath that summoned power from throughout the universe; the slightest whipcrack of that power, negligent as a flick of his wrist, sent Kenobi flying backward to crash hard against the wall, but Dooku didn't have time to enjoy it. Skywalker was all over him.

These schizophrenic "responses" are starting to make me think that you're just a bot.

umad Neph?

No, its just that his posting style completely baffles me. He never addresses anyone, forms arguments or counters points. He just posts a feat then leaves.

That was rude to say publicly.