Wonder Woman Vs Thor

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor vs Surfer to name one. There are more.

H1a8, I can post images of Venom owning Superman. It doesn't mean that's what happens when Superman fights normally. Lowballing characters doesn't mean you're right.

Who am i lowballing? I didn't bring up a low feat for Thor.
It's common comic book sense that Superman is one of the fastest beings in comics. People have argued for years of who being faster Superman or flash.
I mean I think you are lowballing.

Normally is up for interpretation. Writer's don't even have Superman having any type of superspeed at times. This is to make the comic work.
Superspeed is one of the most unfair advantages in the universe. It singlehandedly makes the opponent a living statue.

You have to throw it away at times or badly write Superman without it at times.
Otherwise he would own anyone in a panel.

But we all know he has ftl reflexes and speed. We can't just pretend he doesn't have it. He's suppose to fight at his best ability anyway on a forum.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Current Thor is more powerful...

Is there any evidence to overrule the majority of posters in here?

So what is the explanation of this strength increase so that we can throw away his entire history. Also Thor's feats with Mjolnir creates an illusion. Try feats without it. If you can prove it then, then that would hold a stronger argument.

Originally posted by h1a8
So what is the explanation of this strength increase so that we can throw away his entire history. Also Thor's feats with Mjolnir creates an illusion. Try feats without it. If you can prove it then, then that would hold a stronger argument.

And once again your not helping Wonder Woman's cause but ill play...

So do you think Diana could replicate the feat with an unbreakable hammer?

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]Who am i lowballing? I didn't bring up a low feat for Thor.

Thor has battled characters with Superspeed, and has faster than light perception so Superman speed blitzing wont amount to much. Thor WILL hit him and it will be a good fight.

NOT that this thread is about Thor vs Superman anyway.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
What strength increase he has always had undefined levels of strength,

And once again your not helping Wonder Woman's cause but ill play...

So do you think Diana could replicate the feat with an unbreakable hammer?

You mean a magical mystical enchanted hammer?
IDK
I know that if she had the hammer she would be wrecking shit big time.
If Thor is stronger then he should be also stronger without the hammer.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Lol, the spiderman thing for one. And you've been lowballing Thor forever. Superman isn't going to speedblitz an opponent more than Thor is going to life drain somone. Sure, he has the ability to do so, but it doesn't mean he does it all the time. In fact he rarely does.

Also, Thor has battled characters with Superspeed. Also, Thor has faster than light perception so Superman speed blitzing wont amount to much. Thor WILL hit him and it will be a good fight.

NOT that this thread is about Thor vs Superman anyway.

You confusing me for abi. I never mentioned Spidey at all.

Who is talking about speedblitz? I'm just talking about being faster. Superman can move with speeds so fast and so calm that it's almost natural.

The only way others have a chance is to handicap Superman. Pretend he has no superspeed AT ALL.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Nobody said it isn't. Wait till pak gets a hold on superman though.

😈

Didn't say it in response to a contradiction of my opinion.

Lord have Mercy. World Breaker Superman.

This thread is about Wonder Woman and Thor. The next person to bring up Superman, Surfer or any other non relevant character is getting warned.

This is the last time I give you people a head's up.

H1, stop lowballing by claiming that Thor's feats are "an illusion".

Originally posted by h1a8
You mean a magical mystical enchanted hammer?
IDK
I know that if she had the hammer she would be wrecking shit big time.
If Thor is stronger then he should be also stronger without the hammer.

Your arguing a non point, it would be like me asking for WonderWoman feats without her Tiara; neither is pertinent.

Originally posted by h1a8
If Thor is stronger then he should be also stronger without the hammer. [/B]

HOWEVER, again, it DOES NOT amp his strength. For Thor to destroy planets with his swings, he would need to put enough force behind the blows to do that. Thor didn't command Mjolnir to do that on it's own.

You are the master of lowballing, knock it off already.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Bad move, prove Mjoinir amps Thirsting physical strength

Your arguing a non point, it would be like me asking for Superman feats without his Cape; neither is pertinent.

I didn't claim it amps his strength. It amps his hitting power BIG TIME though. That's my point. He hits harder with Mjolnir than Diana hits with her fists. That's not a fair comparison or reason to say he's stronger.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't claim it amps his strength. It amps his hitting power BIG TIME though. That's my point. He hits harder with Mjolnir than Diana hits with her fists. That's not a fair comparison or reason to say he's stronger.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
The Hammer IS THOR. Taking that away is like taking away Superman's invulnerability. Part of Thor is Mjolnir.

HOWEVER, again, it DOES NOT amp his strength. For Thor to destroy planets with his swings, he would need to put enough force behind the blows to do that. Thor didn't command Mjolnir to do that on it's own.

You are the master of lowballing, knock it off already.

This is comics dude. An enchanted hammer can wreck a planet with a swing but the user not do even 1 millionth of that with their fists.

The hammer doesn't amp Thor's strength but rather his hitting power. It's a false sense of him being stronger. Yes he hits harder but is he stronger?
If WW and Thor grappled in a contest of strength would Thor overpower her?
I don't think so.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't claim it amps his strength. It amps his hitting power BIG TIME though. That's my point. He hits harder with Mjolnir than Diana hits with her fists. That's not a fair comparison or reason to say he's stronger.

If you mean Mjoinir amps Thor, your wrong and have it backwards
Mjoinir is a Tool that Thor powers

Originally posted by pym-ftw
If you mean as an increased arch increases impact and speed, sure I also asked you about Diana w/ a hammer

If you mean Mjoinir amps Thor, your wrong and have it backwards
Mjoinir is a Tool that Thor powers

If you hit something with a sledge hammer then you would do vastly more damage than with your fists. It's common sense that Thor can hit far harder with Mjolnir than with his fists.

On average Diana hits almost as hard as Thor does with his hammer. Just look at all the beings she's affected with her strikes. Of course Thor hits harder on average but not that much harder.

When Thor slams then he hits significantly harder. But normal swings then a little harder.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is comics dude. An enchanted hammer can wreck a planet with a swing but the user not do even 1 millionth of that with their fists.

The hammer doesn't amp Thor's strength but rather his hitting power. It's a false sense of him being stronger. Yes he hits harder but is he stronger?
If WW and Thor grappled in a contest of strength would Thor overpower her?
I don't think so.

Also, just a quick example of Thor fighting in Asgard (a place he wants to protect).

Bare fist fighting was causing it to quake and tremble. It also almost deafened Hiemdall

Originally posted by h1a8
If you hit something with a sledge hammer then you would do vastly more damage than with your fists. It's common sense that Thor can hit far harder with Mjolnir than with his fists.

Ok so again

Diana with an unbreakable mallet; can she replicate the feat?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
So the former..

Ok so again

Diana with an unbreakable mallet; can she replicate the feat?

It's not possible to know whether Diana can or can't.
It depends on the writer.
IMO, if she had Thor's hammer for 1000 issues then it's very possible but not certain.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
[B]A hammer that size would not amp his hitting power. First of all you'd need the strength to swing it in the first place.

Doesn't amp his hitting power? 🙁

Thor bare fisted vs Beta Ray Bill with Mjolnir for melee only would be a fair, even fight?

Originally posted by h1a8
TBH, I doubt Thor could do that with a plain adamantium hammer. But he probably could depending on the writer.

It's not possible to know whether Diana can or can't.
It depends on the writer.
IMO, if she had Thor's hammer for 1000 issues then it's very possible but not certain.

Again you already agreed that Mjoinir doesn't amp Thor physically, but ok

In you own opinion of Diana, if she was given an adamantium/Uru Hammer could she break a planet indirectly?

Yes/No