Again, Thor has caused Asgard to shake and tremble with bare fists. That's not a place he wants to damage. If the hammer amps his hitting power it's not by that much.
Thor has the requisite strength to hit hard enough to cause planetary damage. He uses Mjolnir in battle because it's "what he does". he's got plenty of fights without it though.
Like I said earlier, WW fans should focus more on her feats and stop trying to scrutinize Thor's.
It actually makes WW look much much weaker because going by Thor's strength feats, he's considerably stronger than WW.
If WW has crazy solo feats like wrestling the Midgard serpent, turning back the World Engine and shattering celestial bodies from the impact of her blows, they should be posted now so people can see and make up their minds.
Originally posted by deathlife
Like I said earlier, WW fans should focus more on her feats and stop trying to scrutinize Thor's.It actually makes WW look much much weaker because going by Thor's strength feats, he's considerably stronger than WW.
If WW has crazy solo feats like wrestling the Midgard serpent, turning back the World Engine and shattering celestial bodies from the impact of her blows, they should be posted now so people can see and make up their minds.
Originally posted by deathlife
Really?How?
Thor didn't wrestle the Serpent?
Originally posted by Philosophía
What Thor did there, and what people are passing it as, is similar to me saying that Superman [and the new gods] is capable of blowing planets with his heat vision, or holding them in his hand, based on this scan, where he is in the New Gods world, interacting with the normal [main DCU] dimension:First of all, the Serpent didn't encoil Earth in normal space, he went into the Void [notice its size in Asgard space - nowhere near continent, country or even city wide]:
That's why he is said to be in his etheral form, in the normal dimension [Earth's sphere]:
And that's why Thor needed to go to Asgard to deal with the Serpent, otherwise it would have made damage in the normal [Earth's] Universe:
Once there, Thor travels by boat in the void between Asgard and Earth [where the Serpent is] and uses a simple bull to fish it out:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_15.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_16.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_17.jpgIn the subsequent showdown we, again, painfully see that the Serpent is nowhere near continent/Earth sized, relative to Thor [thus the bull being used as bait, lol]:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_18.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_19.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_20.jpgIt is flat-out stated that space [and time] aren't the same in the Void [as if this wasn't ridiculously obvious anyway - when Thor fishes the goddamn Serpent in a boat using a bull from its supposed Earth-sized proportions]:
In the Void [as in the New Gods world] the normal limits and proportions of time/space don't apply. That's why, eventough the Serpent was small enough for Thor to stand face-to-face with him, and get fished out with a bull, he was capable of encoiling the Earth, and crushing it with his etheral form [as seen in the normal space/time] from the Void.
It's a non-feat.
This feat has been one of the most baffling, well kept lies in the history of KMC.
Yea, I disagree with the disqualification of the "feat" as well. From what I'm reading, the use of time/space in the narration where Thor battled the Midgard Serpent was intended so state that an unknown amount of time has passed, the rest is vague but we can't just assume physical objects don't behave like physical objects just because the word "space" was included.
The difference between the New Gods scan and the Thor scan is that in the New Gods scan, there seems to be a specific change (growth in size) that allows Superman to affect worlds the way he is. In the Thor scan, the scale of the Serpent vs Thor vs the Planet was never mentioned/showed to be changed by the location of the "feat".
The rest of the explanation was based on: "Since it didn't occur in the normal world (it happened in the Void) and that we don't know exactly how matter behaves there, thus, the "feat" itself is unquantifiable."
While that theory has merit, it's just that, a theory. Unless it specifically states that matter behaves differently in "the Void", I assume it doesn't as I tend to not assume unless there is overwhelming on panel evidence that specifically states something to be so.
Also, think about how many other "feats" will be disqualified if we apply the "it has to be w/in the physical world to be quantifiable" rule.
This is all personal opinion, however, as (as I already said) the theory itself has merit, but not to the extent that I subscribe to it.
Edit. Admittedly, I am only aware of the Serpent "feat" via the scans provided (never read the actual comic as I don't collect Thor), if there are more scans that support the above theory then I am more than willing to review it and change my position. 🙂
