Thor wins this thread, Thor is stronger and has the feats to prove it not saying Wonder Woman is not strong she is, she belongs in Superman, Thor, Hulk, Captain Marvel tier, it's that Thor, Superman, Hulk can take it to another level, as where Thor and Superman hold back more than Wonder Woman and that alone should say a lot.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Diana restrained Kid amazo who had the strength of whole JLA.
How is that comparable? She grabbed him from behind for like a few moments.
And skill holds are not reflective or relative strength. Kid Amazo did not demonstrate anywhere near the strength of Superman/Wonder Woman etc. stacked or Kurse level.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16027350/JLA_Classified_040_page_22.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16027353/JLA_Classified_040_page_23.jpg.html
vs.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse23.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse24.jpg
I just noticed that Flash took a hit to the face from him no problem. Throw in the Batman fight:
http://i.imgur.com/iqX2qvz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FUZey4q.jpg
And you're going to prove he's on Kurse's level.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus😂
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16027350/JLA_Classified_040_page_22.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16027353/JLA_Classified_040_page_23.jpg.htmlvs.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse23.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse24.jpgI just noticed that Flash took a hit to the face from him no problem. Throw in the Batman fight:
And just lol.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How is that comparable? She grabbed him from behind for like a few moments.And skill holds are not reflective or relative strength. Kid Amazo did not demonstrate anywhere near the strength of Superman/Wonder Woman etc. stacked or Kurse level.
He did. He was as strong as the real amazo.
I don't recall Thor doing any better than this to Kurse.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16027350/JLA_Classified_040_page_22.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16027353/JLA_Classified_040_page_23.jpg.htmlvs.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse23.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsKurse24.jpgI just noticed that Flash took a hit to the face from him no problem. Throw in the Batman fight:
http://i.imgur.com/iqX2qvz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FUZey4q.jpgAnd you're going to prove he's on Kurse's level.
Originally posted by abhilegendYou can't ignoring everything. He proved you wrong.
Flash has taken hits from people like SBP. Batman is the PIS machine. Are you trying to tell me Amazo with the whole JLA's powers isn't Kurse level? Also Kurse was stated to be more than twice as strong than Thor in the very same panel. Its obvious Thor was just hanging with his tenacity or are you arguing that Thor=More than twice his strength? Also what is so spectacular about Thor hitting Kurse in the back and then lifting him? That was the showing you're so proud of? Not to mention that both time it was made clear that Thor was no match for Kurse.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She restrained him for more than a panel while he was actively trying to free him. It was the cliffhanger after all.He did. He was as strong as the real amazo.
I don't recall Thor doing any better than this to Kurse.
If you want to analyze the scene, then notice that he only starts reaching for her arms as the Justice League appears. What's the next scene in the following issue?
You post a speculation scan of Kid Amazo getting beat up and commenting how he's ineffective with his powers compared to the real deal in trying to prove his efficiency? Which Amazo is this by the way?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Flash has taken hits from people like SBP. Batman is the PIS machine. Are you trying to tell me Amazo with the whole JLA's powers isn't Kurse level? Also Kurse was stated to be more than twice as strong than Thor in the very same panel. Its obvious Thor was just hanging with his tenacity or are you arguing that Thor=More than twice his strength? Also what is so spectacular about Thor hitting Kurse in the back and then lifting him? That was the showing you're so proud of? Not to mention that both time it was made clear that Thor was no match for Kurse.
So because it's inconvenient, we ignore it?
In strength? No he's not if we're talking about that JLA line-up and this Kid Amazo definitely wasn't in practice.
So Thor locks up arms in a contest of strength and it's his tenacity but Wonder Woman using a martial arts hold (Something that has worked on noticeably stronger characters very often in comics and not always indicative of direct strength) is valid?
It's not particularly spectacular but seeing how ridiculous strong Kurse is, still crazy impressive. But he was able to hang, so who cares if ultimately he's out classed?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you want to analyze the scene, then notice that he only starts reaching for her arms as the Justice League appears. What's the next scene in the following issue?You post a speculation scan of Kid Amazo getting beat up and commenting how he's ineffective with his powers compared to the real deal in trying to prove his efficiency? Which Amazo is this by the way?
The next scan is JLA talking to him while diana is still restraining him.
That was to show that Kid Amazo was as strong as amazo as he spells it out. Does your brain blocks the things you don't want to see? Its classic amazo with JLA's powers.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So because it's inconvenient, we ignore it?In strength? No he's not if we're talking about that JLA line-up and this Kid Amazo definitely wasn't in practice.
So Thor locks up arms in a contest of strength and it's his tenacity but Wonder Woman using a martial arts hold (Something that has worked on noticeably stronger characters very often in comics and not always indicative of direct strength) is valid?
It's not particularly spectacular but seeing how ridiculous strong Kurse is, still crazy impressive. But he was able to hang, so who cares if ultimately he's out classed?
So you think Superman, Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Flash, Martian Manhunter combined aren't strong enough as Kurse? Superman and Wonder Woman combined are already stronger than Kurse if we're talking about twice as strong as Thor kurse.
It spells out as his tenacity unless you think Thor=More than twice as strong as Thor. I never said its a direct strength feat from diana either. I said she restrained Kid Amazo.
Lifting someone from behind and tossing him doesn't indicates strength rage and neither is it dependent on opponent's strength. Kurse is what, 1 ton in weight perhaps?
FWIW, diana took several shots from HP Doomsday and has locked arms with Amazo who was stronger than superman and her combined.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The next scan is JLA talking to him while diana is still restraining him.That was to show that Kid Amazo was as strong as amazo as he spells it out. Does your brain blocks the things you don't want to see?
Abhil, I really don't want to have to double check everything you ever reference.
He made a theoretical guess and you accept this?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its classic amazo with JLA's powers.
Seeing how flash's speed aura lets him take hits from far stronger people, its not ignoring.So you think Superman, Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Flash, Martian Manhunter combined aren't strong enough as Kurse? Superman and Wonder Woman combined are already stronger than Kurse if we're talking about twice as strong as Thor kurse.
It spells out as his tenacity unless you think Thor=More than twice as strong as Thor. I never said its a direct strength feat from diana either. I said she restrained Kid Amazo.
Lifting someone from behind and tossing him doesn't indicates strength rage and neither is it dependent on opponent's strength. Kurse is what, 1 ton in weight perhaps?
FWIW, diana took several shots from HP Doomsday and has locked arms with Amazo who was stronger than superman and her combined.
We'll ignore Batman as well I guess.
No they aren't. Especially since Kid Amazo didn't stack strength and was only Superman level in strength. I decided to read the arc and it was mentioned many ties.
Okay, so why are you bringing it up when in response to Thor matching Kurse for an extended period of time as if it was? It's not like she even forced Kid Amazo down or anything.
Doing what Thor did says a lot more about physical strength then grabbing an opponent from behind to no meaningful effect.
So what? Are we comparing durability or strength? In the same breath that you doubt Thor's feat because Kurse is stronger, you mention an Amazo who is Wonder Woman combined with Superman? How can I make a serious reply to that? Also scan please.
