Originally posted by Nibedicus
Isn't Superman strong enough to pull the planet by himself (or at least most of it) in the past? Doesn't that kinda make the WW helping Superman and J'onn pull the planet "feat" a bit meh?
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
How do you reckon that's possible? J'onn created additional muscle in the form of 2 more arms to help him pull the Earth, so clearly he was applying twice as much pulling power as he would in a regular humanoid form. Even if she's stronger than him(which she's not), the difference isn't that great and they are a lot closer than you'd like to think. Not to mention, that going by your claim that she was weakened in that instance, clearly makes it [b]unsafe to presume she was pulling as much, let alone more weight than him. [/B]
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNot really.
So what you decide counts and doesn't is fact? Jesus.
Did you miss the part where Hercules outmaneuvered/outfought Thor in comparison to Thor directly outperforming Hercules strength wise?Herc has broken thor's grip too. That's not exclusive to thor.
She doesn't deal in probability but whatever bro, post possible hallucinations while ignoring what's really happened.That was a direct future.
So Blaze is able to mess with and depower the powers of Shazam with her presence, has even been used as a conduit to empower Adam but you think her choking Adam is a good example of comparative strength?She was able to dampen cap's powers. That has nothing to do with adam since he doesn't have the same power source as cap.
Jesus, let's post a scan of Captain Marvel owning Kryptonite Man beside a scan of Kryptonite Man owning Superman and call the Mightiest Mortal stronger.You got it all wrong as a thorbag would.
Good luck guys, I'm off to bed not wasting anymore time here.Good night.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Comics. Just because J'onn grows two more arms doesn't mean he grows twice as strong. That's asinine. Diana has directly outmuscled and manhandled J'onn.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That's an insufficient explanation. You can't just scream "comics" when confronted with the logical fact that J'onn's pulling strength had been doubled due to the addition of an extra pair of arms, and therefore more muscle. Diana has outmuscled and manhandled PG as well before. Is that proof that she's stronger than her? Not to mention that J'onn has overwhelmed Diana(along with Orion and Barda) in the past as well, so your example means nothing.
Not as she has done.
Diana used her skills on PG. J'onn used his shapeshifting on her and Orion. Nothing as conclusive as a direct choking by one hand.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, it does. J'onn has never shown an increase in strength by growing a pair of other arms.Not as she has done.
Diana used her skills on PG. J'onn used his shapeshifting on her and Orion. Nothing as conclusive as a direct choking by one hand.
You're using Scary Monsters, an arc in which Diana was transformed into a demonic creature, as definitive proof that Diana is stronger than J'onn? Really? As opposed to J'onn just straight up beating her, Orion and Barda in Martian Manhunter#7, this is quite flimsy evidence that she's his superior in strength.
Diana put her in a full nelson, that she was unable to break out of. That could only be the case if they were equal in strength or if PG was inferior.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
What's your proof of that? Logic dictates that two additional arms(additional amount of muscle) would augment his pulling power. That's what I am going to stick with, in regards to this feat.You're using Scary Monsters, an arc in which Diana was transformed into a demonic creature, as definitive proof that Diana is stronger than J'onn? Really? As opposed to J'onn just straight up beating her, Orion and Barda in Martian Manhunter#7, this is quite flimsy evidence that she's his superior in strength.
Diana put her in a full nelson, that she was unable to break out of. That could only be the case if they were equal in strength or if PG was inferior.
ABHI logic.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
What's your proof of that? Logic dictates that two additional arms(additional amount of muscle) would augment his pulling power. That's what I am going to stick with, in regards to this feat.You're using Scary Monsters, an arc in which Diana was transformed into a demonic creature, as definitive proof that Diana is stronger than J'onn? Really? As opposed to J'onn just straight up beating her, Orion and Barda in Martian Manhunter#7, this is quite flimsy evidence that she's his superior in strength.
Diana put her in a full nelson, that she was unable to break out of. That could only be the case if they were equal in strength or if PG was inferior.
Yes, she was transformed. She was also being manhandled by batman and was actually shown to be getting weaker with transformation.
Like I said, he used his shapeshifting to do that. Not just strength.
In the same issue, diana said that PG was AT LEAST as strong as her. Not breaking through a nelson doesn't mean weaker or as strong as weaker characters have put stronger characters in nelsons.
Originally posted by abhilegend
His showings with several arms where he didn't showed any strength increase.Yes, she was transformed. She was also being manhandled by batman and was actually shown to be getting weaker with transformation.
Like I said, he used his shapeshifting to do that. Not just strength.
In the same issue, diana said that PG was AT LEAST as strong as her. Not breaking through a nelson doesn't mean weaker or as strong as weaker characters have put stronger characters in nelsons.
That was her in the process of getting transformed. Afterall, she had been "infected" by those evil creatures. And lol at bringing up Batman and her getting supposedly weakened, because that makes her beating up J'onn PIS.
Going by your logic, his shapeshifting didn't increase his strength, so he restrained Diana with ONE arm in this scan:
Except that stronger persons ARE capable of breaking a full nelson. Since PG was unable to, therefore that means they were equals in strength, going by Diana's commentary.
