Originally posted by abhilegend
Even if she only moved 1/3 of earth, its a hell of a feat.
If we are to quantitatively analyze this feat, then it becomes clear that Diana on her own was moving less than 1/3rd of the Earth.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's stalemated Superman in arm wrestling when people who putting bets on them. He's also held his own against Superman more times than not.And if he amped his strength due to the nature of his powers and how they work in unison with one another...it means what, exactly? He's not praying to the gods for extra power or flying to the source of his power or powering up like a DBZ character. In that singular scan in which Cap can apparently "stack" his attributes and even call upon secondary attributes such as Atlas' strength instead of his stamina, he can match Superman. He did it inherently and without any hoopla. Not sure how that's a strike against Cap at all if he can instantly will or focus himself to be as strong as Superman if he wants to.
It means that without amping his strength with stamina of atlas, he's weaker than superman. Not hard to understand unless you're rage or jake.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She was weakened there. Even if she only moved 1/3 of earth, its a hell of a feat.Hyperbole. That's comparable to diana moving 1/3 of earth while weakened. I don't see how that makes thor stronger.
Weakened in what way? I don't remember this being mentioned.
How can you quantify she moved an exact 1/3 of the force when one of the guys was noticeably stronger then her? I'm just curious how can denounce something for being unquantifiable and spout this.
Maybe, but then again you just mentioned a panel describing them slowing the fall of Spectre who weighed as much as Eternity (A measure of time mind you) so you're in no position to judge.
Frankly, it's more impressive assuming Kang used Earth as a reference point. The World Engine is also more impressive, especially since the Cosmic Axis has been revealed to be a nexus to the infinite Multiverse.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha.
What's funny?
Originally posted by abhilegend
So let me get this straight, cap using stamina of atlas to amp his strength stalemates superman but he isn't weaker without amping? What kind of logic is that? If cap stalemates superman's speed by amping his speed with say power of zeus, he is absolutely slower without amping. I don't even know who would deny that besides thorbags.
I'm just wondering if the powers of Atlas aren'tacting in conjunction with it and providing him with his endurance to match Superman? Isn't that what Atlas does, provide his Stamina or has that changed?
But if Captain Marvel is slightly weaker then Superman with just the strength of Hercules, it's fine, no different then Superman tapping into his own deeper reserves.
Originally posted by abhilegendI agree with them.
Only one time and it was off panel. In only conclusive fight superman beat the shit out of him.It means that without amping his strength with stamina of atlas, he's weaker than superman. Not hard to understand unless you're rage or jake.
Stalemates Superman in strength. Does it eat you alive ?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hyperbolish and Jokish narration don't count.
Why is it hyperbole and why does it being humorous detract from the feat itself? Just sounds like you're dismissing it to dismiss it in a thread you've cooked up for whatever reason.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I can post narration saying that no force could stop one of superman's punches, doesn't mean its true.
This can't be life. Abhi, Superman is not in this thread, to say nothing of how someone saying no force could stop Superman's punches =/= being able to toss the planet out of orbit. So unless you're dropping feats/instances of Superman as far as how they relate to Wonder Woman, the character you're pitting against Thor in the thread you made, I fail to see how he's relevant here. Geez, it's like anytime anyone says something you don't like, your reply is always along the lines of "Well, if you think that way, then that means Superman should be able to do this!" or "If we're using narration, than narration said Superman was unstoppable!". Not every thread is about big blue, man, and trying to make it such is silly to say the least.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Show examples then. Your words are not proof.
Examples have already been provided, examples you've decided to ignore or call inapplicable for...well, whatever reason suits you.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Whatever jake. Drop another essay, see if I care.
Not my fault you can't or don't want to read a thorough response to your arbirtary statements. I also wasn't aware my posts count as "essays". *shrug*
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Says you? The arrogance of this guy. Is this some inherit trait that most Superman fans posses?I thought you understood the difference between strength and skill?
What skill?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I like how my scans are inapplicable but he mentions a possible future as evidence. And Kismet even says she doesn't deal in probability:
http://s68.photobucket.com/user/panthergod/media/Superman/AdventuresOfSuperman494p20.jpg.htmlBut whatever, Superman.
Is Blaze not able to completely mess/weaken the abilities of the Marvel?
She dampens marvel's power, adam gets his powers through her like cap gets his powers through shazam.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Only one time and it was off panel. In only conclusive fight superman beat the shit out of him.It means that without amping his strength with stamina of atlas, he's weaker than superman. Not hard to understand unless you're rage or jake.
What fight was that? Being amped by Eclipso?
It was the only time Cap has ever been show to use his powers to amp attributes with aspects of the gods they normally don't effect. And even so, even IF we assume that Cap can power stack...why does it matter? "Worst case scenario", he can instantly match Superman with his own power simply by willing himself to (which sounds more far fetched than simply being able to match him outright...especially considering that power stacking has never been shown before or since then).
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
How do you know that it was 1/3rd of the Earth and not less? Superman is supposed to be a good deal stronger than her, and J'onn was using four arms, which means twice as much pulling power, and all of them seemed to be putting their full effort into it.If we are to quantitatively analyze this feat, then it becomes clear that Diana on her own was moving less than 1/3rd of the Earth.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its not arrogance, just stating facts.What skill?
So what you decide counts and doesn't is fact? Jesus.
Did you miss the part where Hercules outmaneuvered/outfought Thor in comparison to Thor directly outperforming Hercules strength wise?
Originally posted by abhilegend
A direct future which would've come to fruition if superman had let go of his humanity.She dampens marvel's power, adam gets his powers through her like cap gets his powers through shazam.
She doesn't deal in probability but whatever bro, post possible hallucinations while ignoring what's really happened.
So Blaze is able to mess with and depower the powers of Shazam with her presence, has even been used as a conduit to empower Adam but you think her choking Adam is a good example of comparative strength?
Jesus, let's post a scan of Captain Marvel owning Kryptonite Man beside a scan of Kryptonite Man owning Superman and call the Mightiest Mortal stronger.
Good luck guys, I'm off to bed not wasting anymore time here.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus👆
So what you decide counts and doesn't is fact? Jesus.Did you miss the part where Hercules outmaneuvered/outfought Thor in comparison to Thor directly outperforming Hercules strength wise?
She doesn't deal in probability but whatever bro, post possible hallucinations while ignoring what's really happened.
So Blaze is able to mess with and depower the powers of Shazam with her presence, has even been used as a conduit to empower Adam but you think her choking Adam is a good example of comparative strength?
Jesus, let's post a scan of Captain Marvel owning Kryptonite Man beside a scan of Kryptonite Man owning Superman and call the Mightiest Mortal stronger.
Good luck guys, I'm off to bed not wasting anymore time here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
J'onn growing two more arms don't makes him twice as strong and she is stronger than him. Its a safe guess she was pulling more weight than J'onn.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Weakened in what way? I don't remember this being mentioned.
It was stated by the witch that they would never regain their strength in time.
How can you quantify she moved an exact 1/3 of the force when one of the guys was noticeably stronger then her? I'm just curious how can denounce something for being unquantifiable and spout this.Its a safe bet since she is stronger than J'onn.
Maybe, but then again you just mentioned a panel describing them slowing the fall of Spectre who weighed as much as Eternity (A measure of time mind you) so you're in no position to judge.Which was described as being as extremely heavy. Time doesn't has any weight.
Frankly, it's more impressive assuming Kang used Earth as a reference point.Was earth mentioned anywhere in that feat?
The World Engine is also more impressive, especially since the Cosmic Axis has been revealed to be a nexus to the infinite Multiverse.It isn't.
What's funny?Your reasoning.
I'm just wondering if the powers of Atlas aren'tacting in conjunction with it and providing him with his endurance to match Superman?He directly said that he was amping his strength.
Isn't that what Atlas does, provide his Stamina or has that changed?Glad we settled that.But if Captain Marvel is slightly weaker then Superman with just the strength of Hercules, it's fine, no different then Superman tapping into his own deeper reserves.
@Rage: In modern day planetary mass determinations, Earth is used as a standard for comparing the mass of extrasolar planets(most of which are supposed to be bigger than Earth). Plus, Earth itself is supposed to be a relatively small planet.
Based on this, it's safe to assume that the planet which Kang referred to in question, must have been the same size as Earth.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankBecause it was directly contradicted by what was shown on panel. Joke narration doesn't count as always.
Why is it hyperbole and why does it being humorous detract from the feat itself? Just sounds like you're dismissing it to dismiss it in a thread you've cooked up for whatever reason.
This can't be life. Abhi, Superman is not in this thread, to say nothing of how someone saying no force could stop Superman's punches =/= being able to toss the planet out of orbit. So unless you're dropping feats/instances of Superman as far as how they relate to Wonder Woman, the character you're pitting against Thor in the thread you made, I fail to see how he's relevant here. Geez, it's like anytime anyone says something you don't like, your reply is always along the lines of "Well, if you think that way, then that means Superman should be able to do this!" or "If we're using narration, than narration said Superman was unstoppable!". Not every thread is about big blue, man, and trying to make it such is silly to say the least.Another essay? I like when you ***** anytime I just mention superman. Its ok jake, I know you don't like him but try to reamain objective. Of course this thread isn't about him, just because I brought up an example about him doesn't mean I'm turning this into a superman thread. Both of examples contradict on panel showings and are thus hyperbole. Not hard to understand.
Examples have already been provided, examples you've decided to ignore or call inapplicable for...well, whatever reason suits you.No, because they lack context. None by you though as expected.
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Not my fault you can't or don't want to read a thorough response to your arbirtary statements. I also wasn't aware my posts count as "essays". *shrug*I don't read essays. Never did.
