Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Started by quanchi112201 pages

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol Kenobi told the jedi to f*ck off if they didn't like him training Anakin.
So ? He made a good choice but bad things happened to Anakin. Anakin is accountable for his choices not Kenobi. Kenobi was allowed to do so. So relax you can't debate for shit and just throw out red herring not relevant to your original point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So ? He made a good choice but bad things happened to Anakin. Anakin is accountable for his choices not Kenobi. Kenobi was allowed to do so. So relax you can't debate for shit and just throw out red herring not relevant to your original point.

The "good choice" was going against what someone with centuries of experience thought, as well as other jedi masters? Okay.

Originally posted by Surtur
The "good choice" was going against what someone with centuries of experience thought, as well as other jedi masters? Okay.
Dude, Yoda ****ed up all the time. He led the plane crash of the Jedi order. Kenobi was a Jedi who had emotions and it didn't cause him to lose his way. Yodas too strict which isn't a good thing IMO. He was a massive failure.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But Yoda hasn't ever done so. We can't retroactively apply a feat to Yoda.

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He can. He has the strongest TK among all Jedi and Sith.

He has arguably the strongest TK ever.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
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He can. He has the strongest TK among all Jedi and Sith.

He has arguably the strongest TK ever.

When I do these debates I always define their actions in these matchups their past behavior. That's in character so if Yoda hasn't ever done so I don't assume he will now. Kylo was the first to do so and we never saw Yoda do this tactic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When I do these debates I always define their actions in these matchups their past behavior. That's in character so if Yoda hasn't ever done so I don't assume he will now. Kylo was the first to do so and we never saw Yoda do this tactic.

Kylo has done so because he likes to.

Vader has done so too in some instances.

Yoda has never done so because he doesnt need to. He can dodge blasters or use his saber to repel them. That doesnt mean he cant.

Just because it wasnt shown on screen doesnt mean that the character is limitted to this.

Khan wouldnt know of Yodas TK. Khan gets stomp.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Kylo has done so because he likes to.

Vader has done so too in some instances.

Yoda has never done so because he doesnt need to. He can dodge blasters or use his saber to repel them. That doesnt mean he cant.

Just because it wasnt shown on screen doesnt mean that the character is limitted to this.

Khan wouldnt know of Yodas TK. Khan gets stomp.

Kylo has but Vader was shot by Han Solo.

Yoda had to be saved by clones in the Star Wars clone wars series. He uses his abilities and precog to anti pirate the attacks and use his skills as best he can.

If you don't have an example then it isn't supported in character.

Khan shoots to kill. It changes nothing. He's far too ruthless to even pause before killing Yoda.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kylo has but Vader was shot by Han Solo.

Yoda had to be saved by clones in the Star Wars clone wars series. He uses his abilities and precog to anti pirate the attacks and use his skills as best he can.

If you don't have an example then it isn't supported in character.

Khan shoots to kill. It changes nothing. He's far too ruthless to even pause before killing Yoda.

Khan Loses.

I would say Khan is better than Boba but not enough to take Yoda.

Not even close to.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Khan Loses.

I would say Khan is better than Boba but not enough to take Yoda.

Not even close to.

Jango took on Kenobi who is a slight tier down from Yoda. Khan is superior to Fett with more powerful weapons. Khan wins. Yoda is overrated.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jango took on Kenobi who is a slight tier down from Yoda. Khan is superior to Fett with more powerful weapons. Khan wins. Yoda is overrated.

Jango didnt took Kenobi! Jango ran from Kenobi!

Jango manage to escape.

In a death battle Jango would LOSE to Kenobi in less than 5 mins.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Jango didnt took Kenobi! Jango ran from Kenobi!

Jango manage to escape.

In a death battle Jango would LOSE to Kenobi in less than 5 mins.

He disarmed Kenobi. He took on Kenobi. Kenobi wants to bring him in he failed.

Speculation. They fought and Kenobi failed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He disarmed Kenobi. He took on Kenobi. Kenobi wants to bring him in he failed.

Speculation. They fought and Kenobi failed.

Doesnt mean Kenobi would have died to Jango.

It is different to fail a task and to lose in a death match.

Yoda STOMPS.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Doesnt mean Kenobi would have died to Jango.

It is different to fail a task and to lose in a death match.

Yoda STOMPS.

I never said he would have I said he still took him on Mano e Mano.

Nah, Khan kills him with one shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he would have I said he still took him on Mano e Mano.

Nah, Khan kills him with one shot.

https://youtu.be/8ODI04FWyQI

Jango ran. He never took Kenobi on a one to one. And lets not forget Boba helped Jango!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
https://youtu.be/8ODI04FWyQI

Jango ran. He never took Kenobi on a one to one. And lets not forget Boba helped Jango!

He was leaving and after taking him on one on one he left. He disarmed Kenobi. It's right in the film. Kenobi despite his powers and the force couldn't get the job done against a simple bounty hunter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was leaving and after taking him on one on one he left. He disarmed Kenobi. It's right in the film. Kenobi despite his powers and the force couldn't get the job done against a simple bounty hunter.

2 bounty hunters you mean. Jango was warnef and assisted by Boba.

1 vs 1 between Kenobi vs Jango. Kenobi wins.

Just as Yoda wins this one.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
2 bounty hunters you mean. Jango was warnef and assisted by Boba.

1 vs 1 between Kenobi vs Jango. Kenobi wins.

Just as Yoda wins this one.

One shot from a kid who could barely even see.

They fight one on one with no weapons. What happened ?

Yoda gets killed with a single shot. His poor body can't take it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One shot from a kid who could barely even see.

They fight one on one with no weapons. What happened ?

Yoda gets killed with a single shot. His poor body can't take it.

No Yoda stumps. Khan doesn't meet the requirements to even stand Yoda for 2 minutes.

Those were Ship Guns the Kid use! Even Khan would have gotten kicked there.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No Yoda stumps. Khan doesn't meet the requirements to even stand Yoda for 2 minutes.

Those were Ship Guns the Kid use! Even Khan would have gotten kicked there.

Based on what ?

Khan would crush them. He has to deal with ships and over twenty Klingons all converging. He gunned them all down, easily. Poor Jedi. They die to Khan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ?

Khan would crush them. He has to deal with ships and over twenty Klingons all converging. He gunned them all down, easily. Poor Jedi. They die to Khan.

You are the only one supporting Khan here with no evidence to back up your claims:

All Khan has is his weapons.

Yoda has:
-TK
-His Saber
-Speed
-Mental Control
-900 Years of battle experience.

Yoda Stomps.