Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Good Lord. In the words of Smith, "Why do you persist?" You all know for a fact that Quan is not going to change his opinion. It's even been stated that arguments are getting recycled. The vote is a phucking landslide 50 to 2. There is no reason that everybody can not just stop replying, or better yet, the thread to be closed since the victor is as obvious as water is wet. True, shame on Quan for fooling you into going along for these first 26 pages, but if you guys continue to persist for another 26 pages, then shame on yourselves. As Rita Mae Brown said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results", and if you think more logical arguments will change Quan's opinion when 26 pages haven't done jack shit, then you all qualify for the same loony bin as Quan.

You know what, phuck everything I just said. Quan, if you have a logical (by your standards) argument and want to present it, let that beeyotch rip.

thanks for helping out

Originally posted by focus4chumps
when you've had your fill of backseat modding, tell me more about how to not offend ush. 🙂

I've previously linked "you" to a KMC defined "back-seat modding". Hint: I wasn't anywhere near to backseat modding. 🙂

Originally posted by focus4chumps
here is what ush said (in this very forum, no less).

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11577090

the date of that decision was before GL announced that it IS canon.

seems to say that while its not a fact that GL's decisions rendered TCW canon, its still a valid opinion that it is canon".

Couple of things:

1. The "it" in your post is not the same "it" we are talking about. Watch that. 🙂
2. We've already established that The Clone Wars CGI and cartoon series (both of them) are T-canon (I established that in this thread, FYI). The problem was not whether or not they were canon, it was whether or not they were g-level canon, and therefore, admissible in this thread without a mod's intervention.

Since we already know that neither of them are G-level canon, a mod's ruling was required. I asked Imp, he was okay with it, bam...we're done. No need to drag it out any further.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
this post of course was regarding TCW film, which followed the same criteria of not having been written by george lucas.

Again, that's poor logic and literally does not work. I've already explained why, too.

I think you already know your mistake, here, as well, because it looks like you're still trying to cover your tracks about the film vs. the cartoon. You're a little bit too transparent, actually.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
also, cute how you cherry-picked that quote since it long preceded GL's announcement. clown

You mean good job on my part for finding Ushgarak's ruling on The Clone Wars 2003 cartoon?

yet more of your deliberate avoidance of the point. clown

his prerequisite for canon (having been written by george lucas) was contradicted in 2008 and so he amended his stance, as is clear to anyone with proper reading comprehension and a lack of obvious butthurt clown agenda.

cry more and type lots of irrelevant and logically inverted drivel.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
yet more of your deliberate avoidance of the point. clown

his prerequisite for canon (having been written by george lucas) was contradicted in 2008 and so he amended his stance, as is clear to anyone with proper reading comprehension and a lack of obvious butthurt clown agenda.

cry more and type lots of irrelevant and logically inverted drivel.

Go read my posts again to get your response. My work here is done, circle-boy. 🙂

When your debut comment in the thread or close to it is telling other posters how to act as if an order its backsteat modding. Period. You did it, got called on it, and now you cry.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
When your debut comment in the thread or close to it is telling other posters how to act as if an order its backsteat modding. Period. You did it, got called on it,

Where did this happen?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
and now you cry.

Where am I crying, again?

In a thread recently. You broke into a situation where one poster was debating another and they were exchanging mutual digs, and told them to calm down/get back on topic in a needless interjection and attempt to show some imagined authority somehow, making yourself look silly.

Now and still.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
In a thread recently. You broke into a situation where one poster was debating another and they were exchanging mutual digs, and told them to calm down/get back on topic in a needless interjection and attempt to show some imagined authority somehow, making yourself look silly.

Now and still.

Thanks for actually answering the question (I did not expect a serious answer...these days, everyone is interested in e-peen contests instead of having advancing dialogue).

I'll go take a look and re-read my comments.

Edit - I went back and found that post (because the way you put it, it does come off as being very back-seat moddy...and I wasn't too sure what I actually said).

It turns out that I told them to do nothing.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
we've already been down this road. when you find the qoutes by george lucas confirming it as canon, he will tell you that it doesnt count any more because disney owns lucasfilm now.

"why" you ask?

Originally posted by XanatosForever
That actually has yet to be established, but as it is a moot point in the debate, I see no reason to make a rebuttal.

I am not sure what you are getting at, but it is a good example of Yoda being tactical. Again, if he were so easy to track, we would have seen much more blaster fire coming his way, regardless of Yoda's defense. Stealth is not a factor in the scene you are using as evidence because they were not attempting to be stealthy. Evasion still has a rather good showing, though.

Yoda's lack of a ranged weapon would be a disadvantage against a talented marksman, if you had put Yoda at a greater distance. You did not, however, and Yoda is well within range to strike Khan down within moments.

That is an interesting bit of information, but unless Khan decides he would rather save Yoda the trouble and just leap onto the lightsaber...actually, that would not help your argument, either. Yoda is rather frail, but the Force mitigates that to an impressive degree. His lightsaber also helps balance the scales there. Leaping, and otherwise avoiding projectile fire, is a basic tactic for Jedi along with deflection. Yoda will be trying to close the distance, and his jumping skills are a big advantage for him on this point. To make an old joke, "green midgets can jump."

No, he would not, as he would be leaping in to strike him before Khan can consider raising the weapon. 😐

In character for both, Khan will have no idea what to make of Yoda and lose his head as he tries to figure it out.

There is nothing in that scene showing him hard to be tracked. He is hard to hit. Watch the scene. People were not missing him. Be honest. They came to the temple because they knew it was a group they could contend with due to small numbers.

He doesn't have the time. Khan can fire multiple shots and continue doing so. Yoda is not hard to track as evidenced by the earlier video.

Khan can jump further onto the pods furthering the gap between them if he starts to close the distance. Don't worry he won't.

Khan will kill him and worry about the pathetic little green man afterwards.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Good Lord. In the words of Smith, "Why do you persist?" You all know for a fact that Quan is not going to change his opinion. It's even been stated that arguments are getting recycled. The vote is a phucking landslide 50 to 2. There is no reason that everybody can not just stop replying, or better yet, the thread to be closed since the victor is as obvious as water is wet. True, shame on Quan for fooling you into going along for these first 26 pages, but if you guys continue to persist for another 26 pages, then shame on yourselves. As Rita Mae Brown said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results", and if you think more logical arguments will change Quan's opinion when 26 pages haven't done jack shit, then you all qualify for the same loony bin as Quan.

I'm correct. Khan is too skilled and too armed to lose to an unimpressive green midget who failed defeating both threats before him in the films.

Originally posted by quanchi112
George Lucas does not own Star Wars anymore. Things change. Live in the now not the yesteryear.

He's an old man stuck in the past. His bedroom probably has a "new kids on the block" poster on the wall.* Just let him be.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=585797&pagenumber=1

It's over, guys. As the thread starter, quan has declared that Khan wins. You just can't argue with evidence like that.

Originally posted by The Scenario
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=585797&pagenumber=1

It's over, guys. As the thread starter, quan has declared that Khan wins. You just can't argue with evidence like that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
in the words of the One(that's me), "because I choose to."

I'm correct. Khan is too skilled and too armed to lose to an unimpressive green midget who failed defeating both threats before him in the films.

Considering Khan got bested by someone with far less impressive capabilities, you've no room to make that kind of call.

YouTube video

But please, do go on and continue to make a spectacle of yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

There is nothing in that scene showing him hard to be tracked. He is hard to hit. Watch the scene. People were not missing him. Be honest. They came to the temple because they knew it was a group they could contend with due to small numbers.

He doesn't have the time. Khan can fire multiple shots and continue doing so. Yoda is not hard to track as evidenced by the earlier video.

Khan can jump further onto the pods furthering the gap between them if he starts to close the distance. Don't worry he won't.

Khan will kill him and worry about the pathetic little green man afterwards.

Choosing not to comment on irrelevant statements in a debate is not a concession.

If people were not missing him, then he would have been hurt. That is the direct consequence of being shot. This is never shown to occur. By this very simple fact, it would make you the liar, not I. Thank you for agreeing that stealth was not the intended objective of the assault on the temple.

So you are now arguing that Khan would simple squeeze the trigger and never let go? That would mean he blasts the ground by his feet, if not hitting his foot directly, on the upswing. This would throw him off balance, which would result in his aim going off-target. Not that any of this matters, as Yoda would already be in the process of taking off Khan's head.

Khan leaping up to a senate pod is a bad idea. Yoda's decapitation strike would instead become a bisection.

I can only assume this statement is referring to your next debate. You really should consider ending one before beginning another.

Originally posted by dadudemon

It turns out that I told them to do nothing.

Cool story bro.
You told them to pack up their argument and that you were sick of their fighting as if that actually meant something...

😂 at Quan for making this thread