Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Started by Darkstorm Zero201 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Khan destroyed Spock in one on one combat. You're misrepresenting or leaving out the context of his gf showing up with 8 blasts as well as Spock then taking a weapon to a stunned Khan.

Don't you dare ever try a stunt like this again.

You man the way you have always downplayed the Force ever since you opened this mockery of a thread, along with the Vader ones, where you misrepresent the context in every conceivable way in order to twist the debate into what you want with no regard for anything other than your own viewpoint? That's what I thought.

You are not in a position to make demands or e-threats of anyone Quan, stuff that bullshit in your ass and smoke it.

Considering Id pick Yoda to beat Khan, Spock, Robocop and Riddick together, I couldnt care less how well, or not, Spock did against Khan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
you conceded and I accepted.

He stood there initially and blocked his way to find the opening to defeat them. He did not outmaneuver any laser fire.

He did not miss one time. He is better at everything. This was the clear intention of the film makers. Khan was a crackshot in combat.

What makes you say so ? You still have not proven he can block the über gun. Khan is more than what Yoda has faced.

Relax.

Only I did not, because choosing not to comment on irrelevant statements in a debate is not a concession.

There was a lot of blaster fire going around as the clones tried to shoot them. None of them hit Yoda, and the Jedi Master was moving around quite a bit. Seems simple enough.

He actually missed several times. That is a common occurrence with weapons that fire rapidly. That is not to say he did not hit his targets, he just did not have the one hundred percent accuracy you claim.

To which point? Yoda intercepting Khan mid-jump, or impaling him via saber throw as he lands? I can answer either, I would just like you to clarify which you are questioning. You have yet to prove that Khan would try to blast the tiny Jedi Master with a weapon he has to first heft into position to fire, then hope it will hit such a small target. If you are arguing that Khan tries to jump out of the way first, this point becomes moot until we conclude the earlier point.

Trust me quan, if I was not relaxed I would have responded a lot more vehemently.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hush.

Just sayin'. 😐

Originally posted by The Scenario

Khan used his cheek muscles to hold Spock's fist in a vice grip like hold and then yanked it forwards to dislocate his wrist.

That's the only logical interpretation of this scene. 👆

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You man the way you have always downplayed the Force ever since you opened this mockery of a thread, along with the Vader ones, where you misrepresent the context in every conceivable way in order to twist the debate into what you want with no regard for anything other than your own viewpoint? That's what I thought.

You are not in a position to make demands or e-threats of anyone Quan, stuff that bullshit in your ass and smoke it.

I don't ever misrepresent the feats. Ever. Thats your style while mine is fairness along with consistency.

I exposed your lie. Get over it, sport.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Only I did not, because [b]choosing not to comment on irrelevant statements in a debate is not a concession.

There was a lot of blaster fire going around as the clones tried to shoot them. None of them hit Yoda, and the Jedi Master was moving around quite a bit. Seems simple enough.

He actually missed several times. That is a common occurrence with weapons that fire rapidly. That is not to say he did not hit his targets, he just did not have the one hundred percent accuracy you claim.

To which point? Yoda intercepting Khan mid-jump, or impaling him via saber throw as he lands? I can answer either, I would just like you to clarify which you are questioning. You have yet to prove that Khan would try to blast the tiny Jedi Master with a weapon he has to first heft into position to fire, then hope it will hit such a small target. If you are arguing that Khan tries to jump out of the way first, this point becomes moot until we conclude the earlier point.

Trust me quan, if I was not relaxed I would have responded a lot more vehemently. [/B]

He blocked the blasts. At no point did anyone just miss. Sorry, guy.

When did he miss ? Successive blasts all hit their targets. Point out a time then in the clip.

We see the clones accuracy is dead on and they lack the skill of Khan who has hit everything else he wanted to. He shot Spock's gun which is smaller than Yoda. 😂 😂

Yoda cannot move forward while Khan is firing his successive blasts. As he does so he positions his über gun to destroy Yoda.

Game over.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Just sayin'. 😐
That is enough.

...to destroy your 'argument'...?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't ever misrepresent the feats. Ever. Thats your style while mine is fairness along with consistency.

I exposed your lie. Get over it, sport.

Yes, you did, and continue to do so. You have the consistency of Diarrhea, you can pretend otherwise, but nobody is going to buy you as honest and consistent ever again.

You think you exposed a lie, when infact your having a mental breakdown upon realising that for all of Khan's supposed uberness, his one h2h showing makes him a farce in the face of most jedi's capabilities.

Originally posted by quanchi112

When did he miss ? Successive blasts all hit their targets. Point out a time then in the clip.

Game over.

I'm pretty sure when that movie first came out, Robtard took HD screenshots of Khan clearly missing the Klingon's in another debate. I.E. blasts hitting the ground near them, etc...

But iirc you ignored those. So...

oh lawd, this still going on??

why not debate big boobs versus small boobs instead 😆 😆 😆 😆 😄 😄

Well I like all boobs (except for really small ones). Small and big are comparable and down to preference.

Yoda and Khan are not comparable at all. In fact Khan would literally pee his pants if facing Yoda.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'm pretty sure when that movie first came out, Robtard took HD screenshots of Khan clearly missing the Klingon's in another debate. I.E. blasts hitting the ground near them, etc...

But iirc you ignored those. So...

Oh, so someone beat me to this?

Oh well.

Here's one of Khan's blasts going over the Klingon's heads: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/KhanMiss1_zps0153eac7.jpg

Next up, a .gif of Khan hitting a Klingon twice, but his third shot goes high: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss2_zps949f7cea.gif?t=1381012574
And in convenient .jpg format: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/KhanMiss2_zpsd580bcc1.jpg

#3, Khan completely fails to hit this guy with several blasts: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss3_zpsc998846f.gif?t=1381012590
And the still image: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss3_zps961bfbc9.jpg

.gif of Khan missing 2 targets (the .gif doesn't show it, but the next shot does hit one of them after the initial miss): http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss4_zps6a3837e8.gif?t=1381012574
Still version: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/Khanmiss4_zps5d004907.jpg

Finally, Khan fails to hit 4 Klingons dropping in on lines: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss5_zpsbaddc607.gif?t=1381012592
.jpg:http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/Khanmiss5_zpsa00fd04b.jpg

So there's a quick 5 examples of Khan missing his shots. Is that enough to disprove claims of perfect accuracy?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
oh lawd, this still going on??

why not debate big boobs versus small boobs instead 😆 😆 😆 😆 😄 😄

As I get older, I am realizing the small boobs are definitely the superior package (because of wear and tear...). When I was younger, I loved big boobs.

So, when you're young, late teens, early 20s, big boobs are fun (for both guys and gals). When you get older, big boobs become unsightly. So, for the long haul, small boobs (A and B cups), win the race.

Edit - Also, gigantic sized dinner-plate nipples are gross. Big boobs usually have those. Small to medium nipples that perk right up are definitely a winner. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
He blocked the blasts. At no point did anyone just miss. Sorry, guy.

When did he miss ? Successive blasts all hit their targets. Point out a time then in the clip.

We see the clones accuracy is dead on and they lack the skill of Khan who has hit everything else he wanted to. He shot Spock's gun which is smaller than Yoda. 😂 😂

Yoda cannot move forward while Khan is firing his successive blasts. As he does so he positions his über gun to destroy Yoda.

Game over.

Actually, at around the ten second mark, there are about two or three instances of Clone fire missing.

At 0:45-0:48 we see crimson fire, which we know comes from Khan's gun, fly by without hitting any target.

At 0:52-0:53 there is another volley from Khan. The first shot missing both Klingons in the line of fire, instead hitting the ground behind them a few feet away. The second shot does hit the Klingon on the left. The Klingon on the right is not struck at all.

At 1:09-1:11 a new squad of Klingons drop in, and we see two crimson blasts shot in their direction, but neither shot actually hits any of them.

Immediately after, at 1:12-1:13, Khan fires off multiple shots while tracking a Klingon before finally hitting him.

At 1:14-1:15 Khan shoots a Klingon, but another shot goes wide immediately after, and another volley misses a Klingon who smartly gets into cover.

At 1:49-1:50, the Klingons are hit, yes, but it is clear from a hail of crimson blasts, not successive, precise shots.

In conclusion, neither the clones nor Khan have perfect accuracy.

Yoda could deflect and reflect the small arms fire, causing Khan to essentially end his own life. That, of course, is assuming Khan can train his weapon on Yoda before he loses his head. Based on the showings given, it is unlikely.

Continue?
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Again, why has this not ended with "Fukin' Lightsaber wins"?

Originally posted by dadudemon
As I get older, I am realizing the small boobs are definitely the superior package (because of wear and tear...). When I was younger, I loved big boobs.

So, when you're young, late teens, early 20s, big boobs are fun (for both guys and gals). When you get older, big boobs become unsightly. So, for the long haul, small boobs (A and B cups), win the race.

Edit - Also, gigantic sized dinner-plate nipples are gross. Big boobs usually have those. Small to medium nipples that perk right up are definitely a winner. 😉


You can't go wrong with a good C imo. Both the entertainment value without the long term structural issues.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
...to destroy your 'argument'...?
My accurate is spot on.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yes, you did, and continue to do so. You have the consistency of Diarrhea, you can pretend otherwise, but nobody is going to buy you as honest and consistent ever again.

You think you exposed a lie, when infact your having a mental breakdown upon realising that for all of Khan's supposed uberness, his one h2h showing makes him a farce in the face of most jedi's capabilities.

Name an instance. I've already exposed you twice in the past day alone. Name something specific ie. prove something. You never do.

Khan wins based on the evidence.