Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Started by quanchi112201 pages

Originally posted by KingD19
I'm pretty sure when that movie first came out, Robtard took HD screenshots of Khan clearly missing the Klingon's in another debate. I.E. blasts hitting the ground near them, etc...

But iirc you ignored those. So...

Robtard had dark screenshots which proved nothing. He never missed, bro.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Actually, at around the ten second mark, there are about two or three instances of Clone fire missing.

At 0:45-0:48 we see crimson fire, which we know comes from Khan's gun, fly by without hitting any target.

At 0:52-0:53 there is another volley from Khan. The first shot missing both Klingons in the line of fire, instead hitting the ground behind them a few feet away. The second shot does hit the Klingon on the left. The Klingon on the right is not struck at all.

At 1:09-1:11 a new squad of Klingons drop in, and we see two crimson blasts shot in their direction, but neither shot actually hits any of them.

Immediately after, at 1:12-1:13, Khan fires off multiple shots while tracking a Klingon before finally hitting him.

At 1:14-1:15 Khan shoots a Klingon, but another shot goes wide immediately after, and another volley misses a Klingon who smartly gets into cover.

At 1:49-1:50, the Klingons are hit, yes, but it is clear from a hail of crimson blasts, not successive, precise shots.

In conclusion, neither the clones nor Khan have perfect accuracy.

Yoda could deflect and reflect the small arms fire, causing Khan to essentially end his own life. That, of course, is assuming Khan can train his weapon on Yoda before he loses his head. Based on the showings given, it is unlikely.

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no, there are not.

That is another mistruth.

Another mistruth.

Khan has perfect accuracy. We see everyone he aims at dies. Your attempts at downplaying is falling on deaf ears.

Yoda cannot reflect the rapid fire blasts. It is only single blasts and done by lesser skilled opponents. We see Windu is unable to deflect Jango's blasts.

Khan mows him down. Superior showings than Yoda.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Name an instance. I've already exposed you twice in the past day alone. Name something specific ie. prove something. You never do.

Any of the Vader threads you made, where you gimped so hard and dishonestly.

You tried exposing your testicles in public, and failed because of the rolls and mounds of blubber. Namely, you have exposed absolutely nothing bar your own delusions. I don't have to make a case against the clinically insane.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan wins based on the evidence.

What f**king evidence?

Originally posted by quanchi112
no, there are not.

That is another mistruth.

Another mistruth.

Khan has perfect accuracy. We see everyone he aims at dies. Your attempts at downplaying is falling on deaf ears.

Yoda cannot reflect the rapid fire blasts. It is only single blasts and done by lesser skilled opponents. We see Windu is unable to deflect Jango's blasts.

Khan mows him down. Superior showings than Yoda.

There are, it is directly in the scene, at or around the time I marked. Per your stance of showings being necessary, Yoda dodges blaster fire.

The weapon discharges of each faction are clearly colored. Kirk and other Federation members are blue. Klingons are green. Khan is the only person whose weapons fire is colored red.

It is the times marked in the scene that has been provided as evidence.

Perfect accuracy would mean that with every single time Khan fired, he hit his intended target. That has been your claim since I began this debate with you. Now your stance is that Khan killed each enemy he targeted. In both of these, based on the showings you deem necessary, you are wrong. What I offer is only the evidence provided.

The first five seconds of the Jedi Temple scene prove that statement wrong, as both Jedi are shown being under a hail of rapid blaster fire.

Again: Yoda could deflect and reflect the small arms fire, causing Khan to essentially end his own life. That, of course, is assuming Khan can train his weapon on Yoda before he loses his head. Based on the showings given, it is unlikely.

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Originally posted by The Scenario
Oh, so someone beat me to this?

Oh well.

Here's one of Khan's blasts going over the Klingon's heads: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/KhanMiss1_zps0153eac7.jpg

Next up, a .gif of Khan hitting a Klingon twice, but his third shot goes high: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss2_zps949f7cea.gif?t=1381012574
And in convenient .jpg format: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/KhanMiss2_zpsd580bcc1.jpg

#3, Khan completely fails to hit this guy with several blasts: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss3_zpsc998846f.gif?t=1381012590
And the still image: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss3_zps961bfbc9.jpg

.gif of Khan missing 2 targets (the .gif doesn't show it, but the next shot does hit one of them after the initial miss): http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss4_zps6a3837e8.gif?t=1381012574
Still version: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/Khanmiss4_zps5d004907.jpg

Finally, Khan fails to hit 4 Klingons dropping in on lines: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/khanmiss5_zpsbaddc607.gif?t=1381012592
.jpg:http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p757/Scenario388/Other%20evidence/Khanmiss5_zpsa00fd04b.jpg

So there's a quick 5 examples of Khan missing his shots. Is that enough to disprove claims of perfect accuracy?

Is Quan going to ignore this nice post that clearly shows in gif and pic form, Khan missing several times which debunks the completely falsified claim of his perfect accuracy?

Most likely she will.

of course the attention whoring butthurt showpony will ignore it.

When has Quan ever payed attention to anything other than his own Quan Logic™?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Any of the Vader threads you made, where you gimped so hard and dishonestly.

You tried exposing your testicles in public, and failed because of the rolls and mounds of blubber. Namely, you have exposed absolutely nothing bar your own delusions. I don't have to make a case against the clinically insane.

What f**king evidence?

No, I did not. That is also different than misrepresenting feats. You struggle to actually respond to what I say and go off on irrelevant tangents.

The clips I have posted. Do you have memory issues ?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Most likely she will.
Leave Robbie out of this.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
There are, it is directly in the scene, at or around the time I marked. Per your stance of showings being necessary, Yoda dodges blaster fire.

The weapon discharges of each faction are clearly colored. Kirk and other Federation members are blue. Klingons are green. Khan is the only person whose weapons fire is colored red.

It is the times marked in the scene that has been provided as evidence.

Perfect accuracy would mean that with every single time Khan fired, he hit his intended target. That has been your claim since I began this debate with you. Now your stance is that Khan killed each enemy he targeted. In both of these, based on the showings you deem necessary, you are wrong. What I offer is only the evidence provided.

The first five seconds of the Jedi Temple scene prove that statement wrong, as both Jedi are shown being under a hail of rapid blaster fire.

Again: [b]Yoda could deflect and reflect the small arms fire, causing Khan to essentially end his own life. That, of course, is assuming Khan can train his weapon on Yoda before he loses his head. Based on the showings given, it is unlikely.

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He does not dodge blaster fire. That is incorrect. He is just moving while guys are firing on Obi as well.

You don't show the entire scene though and who else the blasts are intended for.

Khan did kill every person he intended to kill. If he shoots an enemy and they fall or are pushed away not every blast will hit the person since the blasts already moved them.

We see Yoda backed up and not missed one time. He is at their mercy and works slowly and cooperatively with Yoda in order to do so.

Yoda has never reflected that many successive blasts together. He has deflected one single blast at a time and not every one.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
When has Quan ever payed attention to anything other than his own Quan Logic™?
You mean paid attention.

😂

Wow.

While i'm alive i'll make tiny changes to earth.

Originally posted by Bro5eters
While i'm alive i'll make tiny changes to earth.
??

Originally posted by quanchi112
You mean paid attention.

😂

Wow.

OH, FORGIVE ME, Mr. ipad issues, I am very ill at the moment and didn't proofread last night.

🙄

And if that is your sole rebuttal, then you clearly have conceded.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
OH, FORGIVE ME, Mr. ipad isses, I am very ill at the moment and didn't proofread last night.

🙄

And if that is your sole rebuttal, then you clearly have conceded.

So when you're not feeling well you make spelling errors. Wow.

I already responded to your earlier post and unlike you I post evidence. Not like you will understand a word since your brain shuts down when you're not feeling well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So when you're not feeling well you make spelling errors. Wow.

I already responded to your earlier post and unlike you I post evidence. Not like you will understand a word since your brain shuts down when you're not feeling well.

It can happen if I can't see straight.

No, you think you posted evidence, and yet you never address any counter evidence. Get on Scenarios post, your claims of perfect accuracy has been debunked.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It can happen if I can't see straight.

No, you think you posted evidence, and yet you never address any counter evidence. Get on Scenarios post, your claims of perfect accuracy has been debunked.

His post was not quoted to me. My iPad also does not handle gifs well. I have already explained this. I get it you cannot debate for yourself and need to cower before others. Take the night off, kiddo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His post was not quoted to me. My iPad also does not handle gifs well. I have already explained this. I get it you cannot debate for yourself and need to cower before others. Take the night off, kiddo.

Sorry, allow me correct that error now:

Here's one of Khan's blasts going over the Klingon's heads: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...zps0153eac7.jpg

Next up, a .gif of Khan hitting a Klingon twice, but his third shot goes high: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...if?t=1381012574
And in convenient .jpg format: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...zpsd580bcc1.jpg

#3, Khan completely fails to hit this guy with several blasts: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...if?t=1381012590
And the still image:http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...zps961bfbc9.jpg

.gif of Khan missing 2 targets (the .gif doesn't show it, but the next shot does hit one of them after the initial miss): http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...if?t=1381012574
Still version: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...zps5d004907.jpg

Finally, Khan fails to hit 4 Klingons dropping in on lines: http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...if?t=1381012592
.jpg:http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums...zpsa00fd04b.jpg

So there's a quick 5 examples of Khan missing his shots. Is that enough to disprove claims of perfect accuracy?

Originally posted by quanchi112
His post was not quoted to me. My iPad also does not handle gifs well. I have already explained this. I get it you cannot debate for yourself and need to cower before others. Take the night off, kiddo.

Hah, so me posting a video, proving my point, is suddenly running scared... 🙄

It was, twice, and it proves every point. So, let me understand you, you had trouble accessing Youtube vide, then Scenario creates several gif files of the event, and suddenly you can't use them either, and thus making the evidence inadmissible because..... Becaause you lack the resources to use them? No, that's not how debates work...