Faora vs Hulk

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
They aren't human, yet have identical bone structure and strength under a particular atmosphere. This is reason enough.

Besides this, the only reason I proposed the lower durability for her is to keep things simple, as I assumed most would adhere to that logic here naturally.

Would I have been more reasonable to have simply assumed her durability was equal to the feat Kal had shown? I could have, but that would have required me to say that her durability is in all likelihood superior to what the Hulk showed. And that opens another can of worms where we would try to go around prove one or the other. In this case, for the scale we're talking about, it was simply easier to assume parity in that field for the sake of coming to a conclusion in other areas of the fight where things aren't so murky; such as strength, speed and reflexes.

And again, she did not seem to still be dazed when the projectile hit her, she seemed to feel the effects for a few seconds at most.


Your point being? They aren't human, they probably aren't even mammalian as we understand that classification. Basing their strength/durability difference simply on their respective sex is...strange to speak the least.

How would you know that? Especially considering the fact that she was supposed to be a genetically engineered supersoldier of her race iirc.

We have already established her powers weren't as well developed as Zod and Kal's. You can use this to validate the claim that Superman had better durability than her. Using human sexual dimorphism simply goes against objective analysis of their respective capabilities.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That dialogue makes little sense when put together.

So he lands, he's awake, does not move and then wakes up later with pants on him that the old man gave him while he had reverted back.

Either he just fell and was too bored to get up, and then fell asleep. Or he fell, was in some kind of pain from the fall, and then just decided to lay there to recuperate for a few moments and ended up passing out since he was calming down.

Or maybe the 'you were awake when you fell' is simply referring to him being awake while he was falling, since its coupled by the old man talking about his 'good aim' during said fall.

At a certain stage the Hulk is going to turn back into Banner. From an out-of-story perspective Hulks scene was done and there was no reason to have him wandering around the city eating up the effects budget. From an in-story perspective he was apparently calm enough to try not to hurt anyone and as soon as he landed there was no reason to be Hulk out of danger.

If you prefer to think that the fall KOed him though thats fine and I dont think i could prove otherwise with the information that is given. But with the way the transformation seems to work in the Marvel MU and the complete lack of any sense of peril surrounding the scene where he falls out of the sky I think we are supposed to believe he just de-Hulked when appropriate.

Originally posted by Fifthchild
At a certain stage the Hulk is going to turn back into Banner. From an out-of-story perspective Hulks scene was done and there was no reason to have him wandering around the city eating up the effects budget. From an in-story perspective he was apparently calm enough to try not to hurt anyone and as soon as he landed there was no reason to be Hulk out of danger.

If you prefer to think that the fall KOed him though thats fine and I dont think i could prove otherwise with the information that is given. But with the way the transformation seems to work in the Marvel MU and the complete lack of any sense of peril surrounding the scene where he falls out of the sky I think we are supposed to believe he just de-Hulked when appropriate.

That is exactly what happened. Banner becomes the Hulk when his adrenal levels rise, and then reverts back to Banner when they dive.

Originally posted by Stoic
That is exactly what happened. Banner becomes the Hulk when his adrenal levels rise, and then reverts back to Banner when they dive.

Why would he lay in the same position he landed though, on his ass and everything? Hulk would most likely get up, make sure Thor or anyone is after him then revert to Banner.

Originally posted by quanchi112
More powerful.

Wrong.

Yes.

Faster than a human who beat her. 😂

Even tho the film said the exact opposite right? 🙄

Right

Nope

Context. Hulk has no plane or phantom zone guy. She destroys him worse than A-Bomb

Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
Why would he lay in the same position he landed though, on his ass and everything? Hulk would most likely get up, make sure Thor or anyone is after him then revert to Banner.

Hulk's not a genius but hes not blind either. I imagine from the empty blue skies around him he was able to deduce that he wasnt being followed. He was also removed from the source of initial aggravation - Loki's staff.

If he landed on his head or something then it might seem more likely but we can see that he fell flat on his ass and given that he seemed totally untroubled by other falls in the film (they may not have been from anything like 30,000 feet but terminal velocity kicks in quickly enough that the difference maxes out), there was no indication he was in any danger etc it seems like a bit of a stretch to believe we were meant to believe he got KTFO. Contrast that with the scene where Tony falls from what seemed like a pretty modest height and how the sense of danger was played up.

Still people are free to interpret the scene as they please I suppose.

Originally posted by juggerman
Even tho the film said the exact opposite right? 🙄

Right

Nope

Context. Hulk has no plane or phantom zone guy. She destroys him worse than A-Bomb

you are wrong,

Wrong.

Yep.

Does not need one to beat him which is proven by tower strength.

Hulk beat Abom. Hulk beats her. Hulk beats any weak I need to be on a planet with a young stars amp to even make it a fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
you are wrong,

Wrong.

Yep.

Does not need one to beat him which is proven by tower strength.

Hulk beat Abom. Hulk beats her. Hulk beats any weak I need to be on a planet with a young stars amp to even make it a fight.

You clearly didn't watch the film

Right

Nope

While weakened. Hulk was dominated by less than Kryptonian strength and won by luck 😂

Hulk was beaten don't and could only win cuz A-Bomb turned his back. Pathetic 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
You clearly didn't watch the film

Right

Nope

While weakened. Hulk was dominated by less than Kryptonian strength and won by luck 😂

Hulk was beaten don't and could only win cuz A-Bomb turned his back. Pathetic 😂

Yes, I did. Projecting again.

Nope.

Yep.

Wrong. Hulk won and when really angry in Avengers was on another level entirely.

Hulk won. Hulk crushed him.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I did. Projecting again.

Nope.

Yep.

Wrong. Hulk won and when really angry in Avengers was on another level entirely.

Hulk won. Hulk crushed him.

😂

Lying again.

Yup

No

Right. He got more powerful as he push himself. Canon.

Hulk got dog walked by a guy much weaker than Faora. Also canon

Hulk took advantage of his opponent turning his back. Hulk was at his mercy and could do nothing about it 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
Lying again.

Yup

No

Right. He got more powerful as he push himself. Canon.

Hulk got dog walked by a guy much weaker than Faora. Also canon

Hulk took advantage of his opponent turning his back. Hulk was at his mercy and could do nothing about it 😂

No.
No.
Yes.
Wrong. No, just greater skilled and not literally more powerful.

Hulk won. A human beat Faora.

Hulk won. A human defeated a girl who worked Kal. Hilarious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No.
No.
Yes.
Wrong. No, just greater skilled and not literally more powerful.

Hulk won. A human beat Faora.

Hulk won. A human defeated a girl who worked Kal. Hilarious.

Si
Si
No

And powerful includes durability

I notice this isn't your mindset when others take a cheap win on a turned opponent(cough McClane cough). Be consistant for one 😂

Hulk was destroyed by A-Bomb. She does worse

Originally posted by juggerman
Si
Si
No

And powerful includes durability

I notice this isn't your mindset when others take a cheap win on a turned opponent(cough McClane cough). Be consistant for one 😂

Hulk was destroyed by A-Bomb. She does worse

Non, non, si.

No, but your claim so prove it.

I am consistent.

Hulk won. Hulk prevailed.

She got beat by Keller from Oz. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Non, non, si.

No, but your claim so prove it.

I am consistent.

Hulk won. Hulk prevailed.

She got beat by Keller from Oz. 😂

Si Si No

Proven in film. Mountain>>> tower, train>>>> tower, Kryptonian punches>>>>>>>>>tower.

So did McClane

Context. She's superior than Hulk and A-Bomb

Originally posted by juggerman
Si Si No

Proven in film. Mountain>>> tower, train>>>> tower, Kryptonian punches>>>>>>>>>tower.

So did McClane

Context. She's superior than Hulk and A-Bomb

Non, non, Si.

That was a shared feat with his foe. Tower kod him. Canon.

McClane was dominated and won due to stupidity not the case with Hulk.

Prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Non, non, Si.

That was a shared feat with his foe. Tower kod him. Canon.

McClane was dominated and won due to stupidity not the case with Hulk.

Prove it.

Opposite is right

What was? I named 3

Was Hulk dominated? Check. Did foe turn back and act stupidly? Check. Seems it's the exact same 😂

Watch the movie

Thread officially went to hell.

Thanks juggerman.

Originally posted by juggerman
Opposite is right

What was? I named 3

Was Hulk dominated? Check. Did foe turn back and act stupidly? Check. Seems it's the exact same 😂

Watch the movie

You are wrong.

Buildings were a shared feat.

Hulk won on his own and dominate Abom. Fact.

I did you need to.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Thread officially went to hell.

Thanks juggerman.

😂

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Thread officially went to hell.

Thanks juggerman.

FFS! I'll stomp stomping the quan since it's bothering people